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post #1 of 14 Old 04-30-2010, 08:50 PM Thread Starter
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Angry UGH rant

Ugh okay so right now we have our four horses. One is my gelding we've owned for 20 years. One is a mini mare. One is a registered pony stallion. And one is a very bad-mannered Paint Clydesdale.

I just bought myself a gorgeous hunter-jumper/dressage Thoroughbred mare. We're trailering her down to my mom's boyfriend's house tomorrow afternoon so she can be with his horses until we can make room in our barn for her.

We're definitely selling the Paint Clydesdale. No question about that. However, we also need to sell the Welsh stallion because he does nothing for us, and I will NOT have my TB get pregnant. Our stallion is:

*has never shown
*6 yrs old and 10hh
*gorgeous, but that's irrelevant in whether or not we should keep him IMO
*will not be haltered unless you have 2 people corner him into the corner of his stall, when you throw a lead rope around his neck, hold him to your side, and then halter him because he doesn't like to....
*....walk on a lead line!! very pushy on the ground because he is a stallion....
*he is not at all mean. He is VERY calm and sweet for a stallion. loves being groomed, he lets us kiss his muzzle and he buries his head under your arm while you rub his neck....very sweet

So my mom wants him to stay. I do NOT. The only reason she wants to keep him is because "he's pretty" and "he's such a sweetie." I told her to geld him or sell him. She ignored me. He only gets to breed once a year, and that's to our mini mare. My new TB mare doesn't like other mares being stabled next to her, so that could be a problem.

Our horses are all pastured together with free access to their stalls. My gelding and the stallion duked it out over who would be in charge of the mare when we first brought the stallion home a year ago, and the gelding won. He herded her incessantly. Then he sort of gave up and let the stallion have her, so the stallion now herds the mare around everywhere.

I DO NOT want my TB mare pregnant, I do not want her in contact with a stallion, in the same pen, and UGH. When I brought up how horrid it would be if the stally bred my TB, my mom said "they would have such a cute baby!" *HEADDESKHEADDESK* NO I want to RIDE my mare, not risk losing her to an unplanned pregnancy!

My mom says that since the stally is obsessed with herding the mini mare around, he won't bother Molly (my new mare). So she won't sell him because he's pretty and sweet. Ugh....she wants to advertise him as a stud, but who's gonna breed to an unproven, too-small-to-be-ridden and never-been-shown stallion?!

Is my rationel making any sense? My mom has said it before: the stallion is the source of all the disruption in the barn: my gelding's separation anxiety from the mini mare, my gelding losing a ton of weight last year trying to keep track of her, and it's just annoying me so much that my mom's willing to put my mare at risk by keeping a stallion and another mare in the barn with my mare and my gelding.

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post #2 of 14 Old 04-30-2010, 09:56 PM
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Is it possible to take your TB somewhere else?
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Like not eventually have her at my house? No....
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Oof, bummer when the grownup in the house has to be the teenage girl and not the Mom . This really really stinks because you are the one with none of the power, but you sound like the one with all the sense.

Is there any adult in your Mother's life that you can appeal to to talk to her about this. Someone she respects and she would listen to. It sounds like she's not taking your position seriously because you're her daughter, and an objective adult may be able to talk some sense into her.

How feasible would it be to just keep your new mare at your Mom's boyfriend's house indefinitely? Otherwise, at the very least your mare needs separate accommodations from your Mom's stallion (who desperately needs to be a gelding - I also agree with you on that point).

Your Mom's attitude makes me want to bang my head against the wall. It doesn't sound like that stallion is doing your mini mare any good either - what does your Mom plan to do with all those babies she wants him to make with her .

Sorry you have to be going through this, good luck.

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post #5 of 14 Old 04-30-2010, 10:09 PM
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i would call the vet up (or a family friend that has experience with horses and knowledge that having the stally get your new mare wouldn't be a great idea) and talk to them about it, hopefully they'd be willing to explain to your mother as to why it wouldn't be "oh so great" if her got to your mare, fully explaining all of the problems that could come up with it..
but if you're over 18 and have even the slightest possibility that youncould move out and manage-you could always use the: threaten to move out :method :c but if you don't think she'll cave with that...don't even attempt it, coz you'll either end up out on your own or they'll never take it seriously of you say you're moving out. :#
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Nah, I'm 13 and am not gonna play the move out card over a pony stallion staying or not staying in our barn

Keeping my mare at her fiance'e's indefinitely is impossible. He lives an hour away and I wouldn't get to ride very often, plus I just need my horses at my house, you know? He doesn't have a round pen either, which I need to work with her in since she's still pretty green at the canter.

We can't separate the stally....our pastures just aren't set up that way.

Actually, now that you mention it, her fiancee sees horses as animals that earn their keep through work. His polo horses learn to work for their keep....he works them pretty hard, but you know what, they respect him. He wants our draft gone more than anything because he needs someone who will put him in his place. He will probably talk my mom into selling Steely (the stally) if I can explain the situation to him....We're trailering Molly to his house tomorrow from the old owner's house, so I'll have time to explain the situation to him :).

Yea, it annoys me when she gets all emotional over animals. We have obtained a goose from the Amish for $25 because she thought it was lonely, the draft and the stally from a guy who needed a kidney transplant because he decided to play the sympathy card with her, and just ughh. I love my animals, am obsessive over my horses, but I'm not going to say a horse should or should not be gelded/sold because he's pretty

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post #7 of 14 Old 05-01-2010, 09:53 AM
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is there anyway you could split your pasture up? or organize some kind of rotation for the horses, say have the stallion out at one time then bring him in and let the rest out or something like that.
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post #8 of 14 Old 05-01-2010, 10:17 AM
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What about stalling your stallion while pasturing your mare on the opposite side of the barn? Lock the barn up tight o.O - or keep the stallion in the round-pen while you're not working your mare?
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What I'd like to do if I can't convince her to sell the stallion is have the horses rotate time in the dirt pasture. Our 3 stalls currently have no doors to the pasture, it's just an open entrance for them to come and go. We're working on getting doors put in, but with a tight budget, it might not happen all that soon. That way we could have the stallion with stall and pasture access during the night and the other horses with access during the day, while the stallion will be stalled. However, the back pastures are grass and we put the horses out on that almost every day I'm at my mom's. When I'm at my dad's she keeps them in the main pasture so she doesn't have to deal with the huge production it is to get the four of them back there. (I lead my gelding, my mom leads the mini mare, we shut them in the back, then let the Paint Clydesdale loose to run back to the grass pastures, where we quickly shut him in. Then we corner the pony stally and halter him, then try to hang on to the lead rope while the maniac tries to bolt towards the mare. big ugly production what with two horses that don't walk on a lead line) In the back pastures, there's three pastures, but until we fix the back two's hot wire, they're just in one of them. So we can't separate them back there until the new hot wire gets put in the other two back pastures
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post #10 of 14 Old 05-01-2010, 12:06 PM
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Wow I would just GLED HIM already ! That's ridiculous! Send him to me, I'll knock some sense into him! Or better yet I would just take him of your hands.
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