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post #11 of 34 Old 08-24-2010, 03:54 PM
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Ugh, me personally, I don't really like foals. Sure, they're cute and can be really funny, but I own horses to ride them and use them. I had my fun with Rafe, getting him broke to lead and pick up his feet. He didn't need much desensitizing because he is so mellow but now all I can really do with him is feed him and vaccinate him for another at least 2 years before I can even ride him . Boring. Give me a 3 year old, or even 2 year old horse any day. I can at least get them started under saddle and get their mind right for a rider. Groundwork is not fun for me and because I get bored, so do the horses.
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Ugh, me personally, I don't really like foals. Sure, they're cute and can be really funny, but I own horses to ride them and use them. I had my fun with Rafe, getting him broke to lead and pick up his feet. He didn't need much desensitizing because he is so mellow but now all I can really do with him is feed him and vaccinate him for another at least 2 years before I can even ride him . Boring. Give me a 3 year old, or even 2 year old horse any day. I can at least get them started under saddle and get their mind right for a rider. Groundwork is not fun for me and because I get bored, so do the horses.
I feel EXACTLY the same, raising a foal... Well, you might as well watch paint dry, or your garden grow.
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SR.. OMG... too funny.. breed a hot blood to a cold blood to get a warm blood..
LMAO...
I haven't heard that one before..
I've been trying to breed my nice quiet gelding to the pretty little mare next door for years, don't know why she won't take..
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SR.. OMG... too funny.. breed a hot blood to a cold blood to get a warm blood..
LMAO...
I haven't heard that one before..
I've been trying to breed my nice quiet gelding to the pretty little mare next door for years, don't know why she won't take..
That is were the term "Wormblood" came from. People bred Hotbloods to Coldbloods so they could get a strong cart horse with a little less bulk for pulling longer distances at a faster speed. Eventually they got bred more and more for saddle and had the coldblood bred mostly out of them.
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I've not heard of wormbloods, but I've heard of warmbloods.

And no, the origination of the Warmblood does not come from breeding cold and hot blooded horses. That's a common misconception.

Warmbloods are a group of middle-weight horse types and breeds, primarily originating in Europe, registered with organizations that are characterized by open studbook policy, studbook selection, and the aim of breeding for equestrian sport.

The term warmblood distinguishes these horses from both heavy draft horses ("cold bloods") and refined light saddle horses such as the Thoroughbred and Arabian ("hot bloods").

Though modern Warmbloods are descended from heavier agricultural types systematically upgraded by hotblood influence, the term does not imply that Warmbloods are direct crosses of "cold" and "hot".

It is thought that the Warmblood type, which originated in continental Europe, descended from a landrace of wild, native proto-warmblood ancestors, and possibly trace back to a wild prototype called the Forest Horse.

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post #16 of 34 Old 08-24-2010, 04:22 PM
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Ugly color? there is no such thing :)
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Well... I guess ugly is a strong word. But if I had been breeding for color... That is the last color I would have wanted. But Im not riding color. And there is no bad color for a good horse. lol.

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post #17 of 34 Old 08-24-2010, 05:07 PM
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smrobs, agreed! I was putting serious thought into breeding Zierra, mostly because we don't have what I want for sale around here (a search of sales sites will show a handful of Arabs for sale across the whole of Canada and most of them are partbred). And I keep thinking the only way I can get the bond me and Zierra have is to raise another foal. But I'm realizing that's ridiculous, and I'm also realizing how much I enjoyed purchasing Jynx as a 2 year old who was ready to ride within months.

Now, all I can think about is Zierra's horrible feet and how much of an idiot I'd have to be to sell Jynx just so I could wait for 5 years before I had a competition horse. I do NOT want to be 30 years old only to find out that my "perfect endurance baby" is useless for anything I want to do with it.

I've decided breeding Zierra is just a waste of my time. I'm going to keep Jynx around, and in another year or two I'm going to put a HARD look into what 2 & 3 year old Arabian endurance prospects I can find by making some connections and going to Alberta and such to find them. Save my money up and invest my money into an already grown horse who is giving me an exact idea of what his/her future will be based on conformation, temperment and general presence right in FRONT of me not based on what Mommy and Daddy have "done in the past".

I'm just reaching an age where I have zero interest in having to wait a minimum of 3-4 years to even get on the foal, and a minimum of 5-6 years before I can really compete it. I don't have my own place, I can only afford board on two horses at a time, and Zierra is my lifer, so why not always ensure my second horse is a useable riding horse?

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I am right there with you. I don't have to deal with boarding woes, thankfully, but it still hurts to watch a monster of a baby hoover up good hay and know that he won't start earning his keep for several more years. The older horses I don't mind just feeding so much because they already earned their retirement but I don't even know yet if Rafe is gonna be worth a **** under saddle. I like the thought of being able to keep him forever, but frankly, if he grows up to be too big for what I want to do, I may have to sell him. Not much sense in keeping a monster around just because he was my baby when he could go to a home and be a nice riding horse for someone else that doesn't really have horse height limits like I do.
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MM and smrobs, I like the way you guys think.


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post #20 of 34 Old 08-24-2010, 05:26 PM
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I'm of the opinion just because it has a uterus doesn't mean it needs to be bred.

I have no delusions of grandeur about being some wunderkind breeder or foal trainer. I leave that up to the people who have years of experience and know what they're doing.

Plus, at 52 y/o, I don't have the time or patience to wait for a baby to grow up before it becomes useful.

The oldsters have earned their retirements, but the babies are unknown quantities and may not be what I want when they reach under saddle age.
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