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post #1 of 15 Old 11-22-2009, 11:24 PM Thread Starter
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My half brother called me today and said my dad (very long story, very disfunctional family) bought him a mustang for his birthday. It's his 16th, so I thought, oh, a car, I hope it's not stolen.
But, no, it's a horse. My brother has never been around a horse his whole life, so my dad gets him a 1-3 year old (as far as I can tell from what he tells me) wild stud colt. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH He bites and kicks and rares.
So my brother calls me tonight for advice. I very kindly tell him that this horse needs someone that knows what their doing; a trainer. He is sad, but listens to ever word. He LOVES this horse and wants to do the right thing by him. I'm going to send him some books and stuff, but I'm so scared that he's going to learn a little and then get hurt.
A wise woman once told me "a little bit of knowledge is dangerous" and I'm scared this is going to be true.
I also worry that, like every other pet my dad has bought, he'll leave, go drinking or get put in jail and this horse will be sold or just left and my very hurt 16 year old brother will be devistated.
I just can't put into words how mad I am! Not only does that horse deserve better, so does my brother!!!!

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyways" -John Wayne
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post #2 of 15 Old 11-22-2009, 11:36 PM
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That's so sad! Maybe you can try explaining to your brother that a horse isn't like a fish, or even a dog. It is, in very many ways, a much BIGGER responsibility. Maybe if you can explain to him the possible consequences, he'll work harder to make sure everything is done right. You say he loves this horse, so I think his heart is in the right place. If this horse can just get some ground manners and attention, it should be good enough. If you're brother keeps him forever or he gets re-sold, there are tons of people out there who take on older untrained horses. There's nothing wrong with a happy and handled pasture horse.

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."
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post #3 of 15 Old 11-22-2009, 11:39 PM Thread Starter
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I agree that his heart is in the right place. He has such a big heart and this horse has filled such a big hole for him. I'm not mad at him at all. I'm mad at my dad, who is suppose to be the adult, but once again isn't...I am. I forgot to mention I'm in Co and their in KS, so it's not like I can go down the street and teach him the basics of horse care.
I hope he doesn't get his heart broken. It's been broken way too many times before.

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyways" -John Wayne
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post #4 of 15 Old 11-23-2009, 03:28 AM
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Do you have land where you keep your own horses or do you board?

If you have your own place, maybe you could take the horse for your brother for a few months to work him yourself if you are able.


If your brother has to board his horse, maybe you could convince him to help out around the stables, so he can learn some basics that way. Otherwise, maybe he could trade work for lessons, or get a part time job to help pay for training.

It's tough you live so far away from your brother, but it sounds good you are so far away from your father.
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post #5 of 15 Old 11-23-2009, 07:21 AM
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first things first.
he needs to get the colt cut. if he doesn't know a person who can do it right for reasonable, he needs to take it to a vet. i'd opt for the vet. the vet will look for wolf teeth and clean the penis. look for problems while taking the steam out of the young hot rod. then he should get a good book to help and someone with knowledge to help him. basic training for horses english and western by eleanor prince and gaydell collier from doubleday equestrian library, and communicating with cues: the riders guide to training and problem solving parts one and two, by john lyons from belvoir publishing are real good.
if he's willing to do those two things he might start down a road that will lead him to sunshine and lollypops. if he won't do the first one, he'll wish he never saw that horse at some point. the second will give him insight that he didn't know he needed and might let the horseman come out in him. you can never tell. some people were just born to be horsemen. might open up a whole new world for him.
i wish him and you and your whole family good luck in this deal.
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post #6 of 15 Old 11-23-2009, 10:13 AM
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Do you know anyone back in KS who might be able/willing to mentor your brother for you since you are so far away right now?
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post #7 of 15 Old 11-23-2009, 10:27 AM Thread Starter
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I don't know of anyone that can help him. They have this colt on one of my dad's drinking buddy's land, so the outcome of this and this horse's future do not look good. Believe me, I have watch many animals come and go in my lifetime because of my dad. He gets them when he's sobber, or worse, when he's drunk, and then gets in a pickle or put in jail and they just disapear.
Anyways...enough about that. I've already told my brother he needs to geld him and he's already looking into it, though I know they don't have the money. There are 2 stud colts out there, but one is his.
He's a smart kid and likes to read, so I'm going through all my horse books today and I'm going to mail him some. I don't want to overwhelm him, but he's excited about learning all this stuff, which is probably going to save him alot of heartache and make this colt into a decent horse.
I'm just mad that my dad got him the worst possible horse he could have. Get him an old gelding that he can get on and learn what a horse is like, not a baby.
Wow, I'm still so mad today about it!!!!! I would be more then willing to take him and to fix him up, but I can't just drive down there and get him. They live 8 hours away and the gas alone would get expensive not to mention all the shots, worming, and vet work I'm sure this horse needs.
My husband and I do have a little colt that is coming 2 and I thought if my brother's little guy turns out badly or leaves just as fast as he came, I would give our colt to my brother. Then I know he's cared for and I know he will get the proper training and my brother will have my husband and I to supervise when he comes out to see him.

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyways" -John Wayne
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post #8 of 15 Old 11-23-2009, 05:24 PM
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It sounds like you are doing everything you can from your end. At least your brother is looking to you for horse advice and seems to be taking it seriously.

Your idea of giving your brother a horse to live on your property if your Dad makes the other one disappear, sounds like a good one. You can't control the stupidity of your father, but it sounds like you're doing your best to protect your brother from it.

I hope this works out for all concerned.
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post #9 of 15 Old 11-24-2009, 09:45 AM
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There are online sites where you can rent horse training videos. I mean those big names too, like Clinton Anderson, Parelli, Lyons, etc. I rented the Clinton Anderson videos. I did have to pay a membership fee, but after that the rentals were fairly cheap. Also, RFD TV is very helpful if he has it.
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post #10 of 15 Old 11-24-2009, 02:01 PM
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I am so sorry - but you are trying to help and maybe your brother will read the books you send him cover to cover and hopefully he won't get himself hurt trying to handle his horse -- mercy -- a horse like that is a lot to handle even if you are experienced! I wish him the very best and Pray that he'll stay safe!
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