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post #11 of 20 Old 03-05-2010, 04:18 PM
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PLEASE don't set your heart on this horse. Look again, but be very willing to walk away. The tripping is a big red flag for me.

I bought a horse 14 months ago. He was very quiet. I rode him on two different occassions, and had someone else get on. He tripped very slightly once. He was easy to catch, quiet in the cross ties, but was not in great shape. His coat wasn't shiny, and he had many cuts. The person selling him said the other horses had beat him up. She had not given him his shots since she owned him. She did not give me very good background information on him until after I had loaded him.

It took me three rides to figure out that this very quiet horse was very sick with EPM. It has taken one full year for this horse's immune system to heal. It was expensive to treat him with drugs. He has lingering nerve damage.

After one year of turn out, no riding, good nutrition (no grain), drugs, supplements, and vet bills, he is feeling great. So great that he has a lot of energy to burn, is spooky, and not quite what I had bargained for. He now needs slow short rides to start to strengthen his muscles. It will be a year before he is up to long trail rides, if we can desensitize him.

There are many better quality horses for you to purchase. Many cost less than her asking price. Keep looking, and don't rule out an older horse for your first horse. Go for one that is in better shape, and that you have a better idea of his real character. Yes, it is a lot of work and time to look for a good horse.
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post #12 of 20 Old 03-05-2010, 04:23 PM
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I would also be very hesitant to purchase a horse in this condition as a first family horse. I took in a percheron in his late 20's that was underweight, arthritic, and in overall poor condition. He was very laid back and quiet when he first came home, but was progressively more difficult to handle as he put weight on and felt better. I finally had to let him go to someone who was more capable of handling him. There are plenty of people out there that are capable of rehabing a horse and working with them if their personality changes. I would strongly suggest that you look for a horse that will fit into your life seamlessly, without any doubts or questions.

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post #13 of 20 Old 03-05-2010, 04:25 PM
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one other thing...when you have the horse vetted, have the vet pull a blood sample for drug testing. They don't have to do the test, they can just freeze the blood. If you run into problems within a few weeks, you have a sample to work with. A vetting did not save me from EPM, but it could save you from many other woes.

Don't consider a horse in poor condition without getting it vetted. If the owner won't agree to the vetting, RUN quickly and far away.
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post #14 of 20 Old 03-05-2010, 08:58 PM
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How old is she? She is a doll! I want to take her home and put some groceries in her and hug her and kiss her and love her....

I wish I could see her back better, is she high withered? Sway back?

She is a doll. I can see why you want to look at her one more time before walking away.

It's possible they aced her. It's possible she's in poor health (although she doesnt really look like she's in poor health to me) She looks low on muscle tone. It's also possible that she's just that quiet. It's so hard to tell and the part that would make me most nervous is that these people have only had her for a few months....

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How old is she? She is a doll! I want to take her home and put some groceries in her and hug her and kiss her and love her....

I wish I could see her back better, is she high withered? Sway back?

She is a doll. I can see why you want to look at her one more time before walking away.

It's possible they aced her. It's possible she's in poor health (although she doesnt really look like she's in poor health to me) She looks low on muscle tone. It's also possible that she's just that quiet. It's so hard to tell and the part that would make me most nervous is that these people have only had her for a few months....
The mare is supposed to be 14 years old, 15 hands high, and an unregistered quarter horse. She is sway backed. I was really thrown by that when I first saw her in person, because I've seen pictures on ads for older horses that looked much better than she does.

I figure take anything I learned from the current owner with a grain of salt. She struck me as very unknowledgeable, and assuming she is trying to be upfront with me, she may have been taken advantage of by the previous owner.

If the owner actually gets her feet fixed (they were pretty long), then I'll try to get better pictures when I go out again.

EPMhorse: Thank you for sharing your story. I'm glad your guy is doing so much better. I definitely wont buy any horse without getting a PPE first. I know I don't know enough yet to take that kind of chance. I'm not in love with this mare, she seemed very blank and distant when I met her. I'll go back for a second look, but I kind of hope someone else buys her so I'll be off the hook.

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post #16 of 20 Old 03-06-2010, 05:54 PM
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That definately does not look like a 14 year old horse. I was thinking more like late 20s when I looked at the pics.
I've definately seen some aced horse's perk up and whinny for food, so that doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't drugged. She certainly does look like a doll. I might consider her if they would allow a trial period on her. Otherwise I'd probably pass on her, who knows what she will act like when shes actually feeling good and is healthy again.
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What are you hoping to do with her? As a first horse, assuming you can get her feet fixed up without big problems, it sounds like she would make a greaty first horse. I really like her. I think she's really cute and her temper, as I said above, would make her a really ideal first horse and tho she could use a little more groceries, she looks great.

When looking at her pictures tho, the reason they are selling her...is her age? if she is indeed a QH, that would(to me) explain why she is so laid back. I absolutely LOVE Qhs for that reason, but I also wonder if she is older than what they are telling you.

If you are interested in her, I would drop the price down by at least half and explain to them it's due to the bad shape of her feet. I would get someone who can read her teeth, preferably a vet, to come out and take a look.

I really like her, but taking a bigger look around at other horses might help you make a decision. If there is nothing else around that matches what you want, then calling those people back to see if she sold might be a good idea.

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That definately does not look like a 14 year old horse. I was thinking more like late 20s when I looked at the pics.
From her behavior and demeanor I was thinking the same thing about her age. I've seen ads for early twenties horses that say something like, "May be 22 but acts like 12". Here I was thinking if this girl is really 14, it's more like "May be 14, but acts like 24."

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I wouldn't buy a skinny horse if I were you. My sister purchased a horse that was so broke and calm, he would load from the side door of the trailer. They even demonstrated it for us. He was great being ridden, just so calm, not bothered by anything and would go anywhere you pointed his nose. He was just what we were looking for (being beginners and all). All he needed was some groceries. We fattened him up alright...had him looking gorgeous. Not only did his looks change, though, so did his personality. He didn't put his head down anymore while we rode and go wherever we put his nose....he threw his head, rared, bucked and was just generally jumpy and high strung. After that, although we felt sorry for the poor skinny ones, we didn't even consider a horse that was really underweight. It can be hard to do when they seem so sweet and pitiful, but you need a horse you can really enjoy. I wouldn't even go back if I were you...if that was the horse for you, then you would have felt a lot better than you did about it. Keep looking! You may have to look at a bunch before you find the right horse. If you have the experience we had in buying a horse, you will find that a lot of people are just down right liars when they are advertising a horse. Just keep weeding through them until you find the right one.
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post #20 of 20 Old 03-08-2010, 11:36 AM
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My only fear is the quick turn around on this horse, they've only had her for a few months. I think the price is high, I'd go with M2G's suggestion and offer about half if you went for her.

As for her behavior as a 14 year old QH......
My 26 year old behaves like a 4 year old, my 14 year old behaves like a 6 year old...my 4 year old behaves like a 10 year old... my 10 year old behaves like a 20 year old...

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