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They are just scared innocent animals that are being treated horribly 3 11.54%
They know their job and perform it well 19 73.08%
Sure some know what to do, but i dont agree with it 4 15.38%
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post #1 of 31 Old 09-05-2010, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
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What do you think of Broncos?

I was in my Equine Science lecture earlier this week and we were discussing bucking broncos. My professor brought up and interesting thought. Wouldnt you think that some of the "seasoned" broncos realize that their job is to buck and they enjoy it? Just like other performance horses enjoy their job. She brought up the fact that a bronco is infact a "performance" horse. It has a set job that it needs to "perform" She told us that pretty much they are trained to buck simply because of the encouragement to buck threw bucking straps, spurs, etc. She went on to tell us that many of those broncos are VERY well behaved on the ground and have very good ground manners. Tell me what you think. Some people think its cruel and horrible and they "scare" the horse into bucking and they take fresh horses and just jump on them. Yet others think that some of the horses enjoy it, know what they are supposed to do, and do it well. This is the first time iv heard someone think positive about broncos. So im curious
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I grew up with rodeo. They sure seemed to enjoy their jobs. Even the cowboys would comment on it! These weren't scared mistreated horses. As kids we'd go up to the stockyards and feed them through the fence. But when the straps go on, they're at work and they know what they've got to do.

I think a few bad stockmen have given the group as a whole a bad name, however, the stock are what makes the money and taking good care of them is in their best interest. I miss the rodeo life.

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Actually most professional broncs are very good on the ground & i've even seen some who could be ridden. They're ususally very well cared for as well because they are performance horses. Same goes for the bulls (though i wouldn't necessarily say they are good on the ground lmao)
Iv heard of some broncs who are older who dont even buck anymore with the strap, though many keep on with their job & are bred afterwards to produce better broncs.

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From observing horses at the rodeo, I tend to agree with your professor.

Some actually stop bucking when they hear the bell or whistle, most all stop bucking as soon as the pickup man picks up their cowboy. Usually then they just trot around the arena and head back through the chute, they don't require a lot of handling or herding, they know they're done. I think they do know their job and what's expected of them. Whether they enjoy it, I can't say, but it's not a terribly strenuous job as performance horses go.

If you're looking for animal cruelty or abuse, I think there are better places to look.
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I tend to lean the other way. I sure wouldn't want something strapped on me that hurt just to make me buck. Unlike you that have been around the stockyards, I'm just the bystander, seeing the other side. An unhappy animal who would probably rather be out on pasture munching and enjoying life than to buck and fall and stagger around trying to get free of the crap strung all over it. I don't care for that part of the rodeo. This is my opinion.
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mbender - the flank straps put pressure but the don't 'hurt' the animals. Basically what they are trying to do is kick it off. It's more irritating than anything. 9 times out of 10 they stand quietly to be put on. Sometimes they get real excited and will hop around. I used to help behind the chutes when I was in high school.

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I tend to lean the other way. I sure wouldn't want something strapped on me that hurt just to make me buck. Unlike you that have been around the stockyards, I'm just the bystander, seeing the other side. An unhappy animal who would probably rather be out on pasture munching and enjoying life than to buck and fall and stagger around trying to get free of the crap strung all over it. I don't care for that part of the rodeo. This is my opinion.
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Yes but think of it this way, im sure you wouldnt want someone putting a bit in your mouth and saddling you up and riding you around. Its the same concept.
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People don't seem to understand that we actually breed broncs exactly how we breed racehorses and show jumpers - we've seen what personality type works, and they're bred to buck. These are horses that, if purchased as a foal, are likely to give you PLENTY of problems as they grow into riding horses. It's like putting a QH bred to the nines with cow into a pasture of cows and seeing him go after them - enough generations of breeding, and it becomes instinct.

My eyes are always on the chutes during rodeo time. It's interesting to me because you can SEE which ones are experienced and which ones are newer. If these were wild and scared animals, cowboys would not be able to easily slip a halter on them. They would not be able to saddle them without issues in the chute. They would not be able to pet them and scratch them without freaking out.

No, these are not pets. These are not horses that have ever learned human companionship is something they want. You can usually walk amongst them, but they're indifferent to being pet for the most part - we CREATE that in horses. People seem to have difficulty understanding the difference between wild horse and a working horse. Ranch horses are much the same - they exist to WORK and don't have time for treats and petting.

A bucking horse for SURE knows his job. They can't have rank stock in there - a crazed Mustang is the LAST thing a rodeo wants because crashes are good for business, DEATHS are not. It's not just ANY horse coming out of that chute - that is generations of the finest buckers in the world, and an animal that's been worked and fine tuned to ensure he's a wicked competitor without being a danger to himself and to the cowboys.

Ironically, bulls and steers fit much more into the category of wild animals. Watch a bull in the chute - unless they have a ton of experience, they'll smash the sides, try to jump out, buck around, and even lay down. These are animals that just don't have the domestic streak that horses do yet, a wild animal that IS out to kill.

Don't forget ladies and gentlemen - a Mustang stallion on the fight is one of the single most dangerous prey animals alive because they WILL attack to kill. If these horses are so wild, crazy and scared - why aren't they mauling cowboys instead of happily prancing out of the ring?

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I'd like to see what a bronc would do if someone got on it without the strap or spurs. That would tell the tale.
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Some bulls would rather kill you than let you put the flank strap on. I don't know how many times I've seen them go right up and out of the closed chute!

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