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They are just scared innocent animals that are being treated horribly 3 11.54%
They know their job and perform it well 19 73.08%
Sure some know what to do, but i dont agree with it 4 15.38%
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post #21 of 31 Old 09-05-2010, 11:44 PM
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Most of them are only used once per rodeo, around here anyway. If there is a 2 or 3 day rodeo, they bring enough stock so that none of the horses, bulls, steers, anything have to be used twice during the same rodeo. So I would guess working like 8 seconds a week. I could deal with that life .
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post #22 of 31 Old 09-06-2010, 12:17 AM
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Yeah, they pretty much can't use them more then once out of fairness - a cowboy isn't going to pay cash to ride a horse that's already had the big buck ridden out of him. They have to stay on, but they're still judged and little bucks don't equal pay money.

I do believe the entire purpose of the flank strap isn't so much to annoy (as people think), but it was actually used in the old days of rodeo when your average bucking horse also doubled as a ranch horse. The flank strap was what told the horse it was time to buck instead of herd cows! There are countless stories of historic old bucking horses who were actually ranch horses with a wicked buck and did tons of jobs from herding cows to pulling a sleigh to making cowboys eat dirt!

There's a story from a book I have about a horse named Hank who was used in such a way - to the point where, to add insult to injury, when he was done demolishing his rider, his owners son would run into the ring, remove the flank strap, jump on and ride him out! The flank strap was nothing more then his cue to buck like the dickens.

Midnight was one of the most famous bucking horses of all time, and he started as a saddle horse. Necklace follows close behind him as a legend in early Canadian rodeo, and she to started as a saddle horse. Neither of these horses were mean spirited, they didn't hate humans, they just LOVED to buck. When it became apparent that the life of a saddle horse was one of misery for them, they were given a chance to do what they did best - and they've gone down in history for it.

I don't doubt there is some abused stock, but it's like EVERY discipline. Do you honestly believe a horse is less annoyed by a tight girth, a second cinch, ropes hanging off him, boots? I bet you money those horses would buck JUST as high without that flank strap on.

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post #23 of 31 Old 09-06-2010, 12:26 AM
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I think weather a bucking horse is good or bad depends on the rodeo & participants. in all disciplines, there are good & bad people, and there are good and bad events. although i'm no expert on the subject, just my thoughts
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post #24 of 31 Old 09-06-2010, 01:12 AM
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Well, plenty of horses get annoyed when the girth is too tight and some definitely will give a buck or two! We were always taught it was a means of putting pressure in the flank area to basically irritate them to 'kick it off'. No idea about way back when. My grandpa rodeoed. He may have mentioned it but I don't remember.

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There is actually a "law" written or not I don't know, but bucking horses and bulls are only used for I think it was like a total of 3 weeks out of the year, and not all at the same time obviously and the rest of the time they live out on a nice big green pasture. I worked a few rodeos in my town, and I actually know of a couple of people who bought ex bronc horses, and say that they are the best horses they've worked with. They know their job, and they do it dang well, otherwise they'd be sold, but I too have seen some that run happy circles around the arena until the gate is opened, and many actually walk or trot through instead of canter or gallop. I can understand the history behind rodeos, and that most everything in a rodeo besides bull riding, and barrel racing were things that cowboys had/have to do on the range. The animals are treated quite well, and unfortunately a few bad people have given rodeos in general a bad name. I wouldn't necessarily raise bronco's myself, but just like any other horse out there, they are bred and used for a specific job, it just happens to be a slightly different one than trail riding.
Where I worked a couple of rodeos, they actually brought the stock in at night two evenings before so that the animals weren't being hauled in the heat of the day, and during the day (the rodeo events were held in the evening), they would actually let the horses and steers out in groups into the big arena so they could get a bit of exercise and weren't stuck in their pens the entire time they were there. Even some of the bulls were actually "nice". They would come up to the fence and let you pet their noses, I wouldn't ever go in with them, but they weren't wild crazed abused animals.
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post #26 of 31 Old 09-06-2010, 02:57 AM
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I agree w/ the majority, like someone else mentioned lots of times when the buzzer goes off they stop bucking. I was at one rodeo and every horse there, not only stopped bucking, but stopped completely, then calmly started walking towards the exit gate, cowboy just slid off! It's not usually quite like that, but it was interesting to see!

They do run them around in the back and try to rile them up before putting them in the shoots. And I have seen them using cattle prods on them, not generally, but occationally, I really don't think that's necessary. Otherwise they are treated quite well, and I'm sure most would love to spend their lives in a big green pasture w/ all their friends stuffing their faces all day, so would I!! But most of us have to work for a living, them included.
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post #27 of 31 Old 09-06-2010, 03:53 PM
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My issue isn't the strap, it's the spurs. If these horses love to buck so much then why is it part of the rules that the cowboy has to spur them on?
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post #28 of 31 Old 09-06-2010, 03:56 PM
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I honestly don't know about that part. I know as we moved towards better enlightenment in the treatment of animals, they can't wear sharp spurs anymore, I think only beveled rowels. I don't understand the purpose of it though, as spurring the shoulders doesn't strike me as a good way to make a horse buck in the first place. I'm assuming much like the flank strap it's almost an unnecessary tradition that's carried on?

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Think of it this way, its encouragement. Horses natural reaction to buck can be from a predator being on their back and possibly "clawing" them, among other things. Think of spurs as "claws"
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I dont know that the spurs are used to bring on the buck...but to make the horse buck harder. Just a thought!
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