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post #11 of 20 Old 09-02-2015, 04:29 PM
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If you have a signed contract, you must fulfill the agreed terms, so if the contract you signed says, 1 day or 31, you pay one full month's rent/board. I had only a verbal agreement with the BO that I rented a paddock and shelter from, and though I argued all rent increases for 14 years, I would have honored the monthly payment date of 5th of the every month.
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If your contract is verbal, you could very well burn a bridge that you may need in the future. It isn't worth it. Just pay up. You haven't been a BO, and we all need to walk a mile in someone else's sandals.

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post #12 of 20 Old 09-02-2015, 08:22 PM
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Yes, Im on good terms with the person I pay. If I asked her if I could only pay the remaining 10 days she would say no, thats why I didnt bother asking.

Im leaning towards just paying for the remaining 10 days and another week on top.

I know they have the 30 day rule in place for a reason (and its very legit), but I just find it a bit insulting that they never even offered to cut me any slack for all that Ive done for them. Mind you, yes the barn "helper" has done a lot for me too and has taught me a lot and helped me with things here and there, but Ive put a lot of time into this place and feeding just about every single night for 4 months is a lot work I did.

Let me just put it this way, the time Ive spent feeding every night and shovelling **** (for the first month), is worth way more than the difference in board from a full month to 10 days (approx $300).

And most importantly, if Im going to pay the full months board, and not going to get my $100 back, why am I still expected to do feed? Like really, the barn "helper" knew this. She should have at least said this and offered me to not have to do it for the remaining time Im there. Just a bit insulting thats all and in a way I feel theyre taking advantage of me (have me pay a full months board, not give my $100 at the end and still get me to feed).
Ok, so then the answer is no.

But in the end you AGREED to the arrangement, no? You have a responsibility to uphold your end of the agreement, which is 30 days notice. I find it insulting that my BO take $3 off board to feed one meal, but I don't argue because I agree to feed most Friday's. I could have just said "no thank you" from the beginning, but I enjoy feed. I can't just give her $5 less off my board for feeding because that's what I feel it worth.

The only way I can see you getting over this is by finding another boarder to fill your spot when you leave.
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post #13 of 20 Old 09-02-2015, 09:59 PM
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You need to pay the 30 days.

What I would do - pay right up to the 28th of September. So pay $124.60 for the 11 days you will be there (if you continue helping with the feed). Plus $249.30 for the remaining 17 days. Which would be about $374.00. If you don't help with the feed it's about $410.00.

Unless clearly stated on your contract I think you should have to pay 30 days from the day you gave notice not until the end of the month.

I know if feels like they should be treating you differently because you help out... but that's not usually reality. If you want compensation for what you do negotiate it at the time, not down the track when you want.

You may not care about burning bridges, but the horse world is small and it can come back to bite you in unforeseeable ways. Always act with integrity even if others don't - this means acting in accordance to the contracts you agree to.
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post #14 of 20 Old 09-02-2015, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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So do you have a contract or not?

You gave your 30 days. From my experience, and every barn around here, it's 30 days as of the 1st of the month, you can give it sooner, as well as leave sooner, but you still need to pay for 30 days as of the first of the month. So yes, you should pay for a full months board. Now, IF you do not have a contract or it states nothing about notice and payment, then you may leave sooner with only pay those dates you are there (pro-rated). I personally would not do this either way, unless there was some reason that you needed to leave sooner (you are moving to a new city or state/horse is not being cared for/BO broke contract, etc etc).

Also, I would be giving written notice to the BO - not simply stating what you plan to do to a staff member, it's honestly not up to the staff member AT ALL. Read your contract, and give written notice to BO.
I just looked over my contract and it doesnt say anything in print about 30 days notice. The barn helper preaches it, but its not on the contract.

I know there have been a few in the past month who just left within a few days and even though the barn helper wasnt happy, theres not much they can do about it.

I ran into the barn helper tonight and I emailed her in the morning. She usually brings it up with me but just in case she hasnt read my email yet, ill give her til tomorrow night.
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post #15 of 20 Old 09-03-2015, 12:54 AM
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I just looked over my contract and it doesnt say anything in print about 30 days notice. The barn helper preaches it, but its not on the contract.

I know there have been a few in the past month who just left within a few days and even though the barn helper wasnt happy, theres not much they can do about it.

I ran into the barn helper tonight and I emailed her in the morning. She usually brings it up with me but just in case she hasnt read my email yet, ill give her til tomorrow night.
Why in the world are you not speaking with the BO directly - the staff have absolutely nothing to do with this.
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post #16 of 20 Old 09-03-2015, 06:39 PM
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It's odd to me that the barn didn't make you pay first and last month's board when you got there (or at least get a check for it) so it ensures they get 30 days notice. That's what my barn does, and many apartment rental places do as well.

I would say you need to pay the 30 days, if you don't want to burn any bridges, but you might try and get a prorated amount back for feeding time. So if you're only staying half the month, instead of 100 off, can you get 50? It's something, and I think it's a reasonable question to ask. I definitely wouldn't be feeding anymore unless they will provide some incentive for you to help with that...
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post #17 of 20 Old 09-04-2015, 01:59 PM
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I'd go by what the contract says & continue to feed while you are there.
Remind them you are leaving, if they have a fit show them the contract.

To me 30 days is 30 days unless something states notice must be given at the first of the month.
I don't have a 30 day clause in my contract. If someone wants to leave they can go anytime. To me that's so much easier & no had feelings.

I had a boarder who wanted to go to a show barn for 5 months & paid board to me to hold her stall. When she came back I gave her all the board money back just 'because.' She was very surprised & happy.
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post #18 of 20 Old 09-04-2015, 02:24 PM
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I'd go by what the contract says & continue to feed while you are there.
Remind them you are leaving, if they have a fit show them the contract.

To me 30 days is 30 days unless something states notice must be given at the first of the month.
I don't have a 30 day clause in my contract. If someone wants to leave they can go anytime. To me that's so much easier & no had feelings.

I had a boarder who wanted to go to a show barn for 5 months & paid board to me to hold her stall. When she came back I gave her all the board money back just 'because.' She was very surprised & happy.
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post #19 of 20 Old 09-05-2015, 11:04 AM
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I agree with Saskia, this is the correct way to do it.
You gave notice on Aug 28. You have already paid for the remaining days in August, so you only need to pay till September 28.

If you chose to keep feeding for the remaining 9 days (=$30), then I would deduct that from the board cheque, since you won't be there to collect it.

What's in the past is in the past. It would be nice of the bo to give you a bit of slack for all the work you did, but that is entirely voluntary on her part. Voluteering is volunteering, it does not mean you can claim what you think you deserve sometime later.
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post #20 of 20 Old 09-05-2015, 11:44 AM
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Not bashing on you, Hoofpic, but this is exactly why I don't allow anyone to "work" in my barn when I have boarders. Either you are a boarder or you are hired help in my barn. Hired help gets a pay check and then they pay board just like any other boarder if they keep a horse here, or they're a boarder and they come visit their horse and enjoy it and they go home. A boarder will NEVER be allowed to clean stalls or feed or any other duties for a reduction in board money. It just gets too messy. And if it's gotten messy, that's the BO's fault for allowing it to happen.

The correct thing to do is to pay for Sept. board, unless it specifically states in your contract that they will pro rate a partial month, stop doing the feeding and move your horse during the 30 days. Don't expect a reduction, don't expect any favors. Take it as a learning experience and move on.

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