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post #61 of 120 Old 06-03-2013, 01:05 PM
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We had an 'old' bucking horse gelding - Chiquoline - for a while...he was registered, sturdy, and quite the looker. He was 15 and had been bucking for quite a few years, was starting to loose his fire, so they retired him. We broke him out like your average untrained horse and it didn't take long at all. No bucking strap meant he wasn't doing his rodeo job, which meant he wasn't had no intentions of making more work for himself and bucking. I don't think he ever tried to toss any of us, and he made a phenominal trail guide horse and even participated in a few parades. We sold him on to a family that needed a husband safe horse, and as far as I know he met their needs just fine. I don't know how long he stayed sound, but the entire time that we had him (1 1/2 years I think?) he was just find.

So no, I don't believe that all bucking horses are trashed after they're done.

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I rode a retired bucking horse in Texas named Cowboy. Never had any problem with him.
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CowChick- There isn't anything anyone is going to tell me that will make me go back to another rodeo. Sure there are rodeos that don't do that sort of thing, or maybe they are just better at hiding the injured animals in the back. I took pictures of the calves at the last one for proof of how disregardful they were to the animals. This was a rodeo done by a university- I won't name it, but still rather disgusting. The other rodeos around here are small things, and as such are not well regulated.

I am not trying to convince you to go to another rodeo, either you enjoy them or you don't. But you can not base your opinion on ALL other rodeos if that was the only one you have been to.

I consider branding to be abusive as well. Sure everyone considers it a necessary evil, but I would love to see anyone who does it accidentally brand themselves and see how long it takes before they are asking for pain pills! To inflict pain on any animal (or person) is abuse, especially when you could have vet numb the area, if you absolutely have to brand (or give pain meds). The same as castrating without using pain meds... Even rapists and murderers get better treatment than animals.

If your against branding how do you suggest livestock be identified clearly with the lessened chance of alteration for purposes of theft?

Having a vet come out to numb the area is not an option for most ranches that run thousands of head of cattle and are hours away from the nearest town. And if it is possible the cost gets passed down through the consumer. You think beef is expensive now? Add in extra costs like paying a vet and meds for several thousand head.

People always find a justification for what they do... It is okay because they are livestock. It is okay to abuse others to make a profit. It is okay because they are less intelligent. Just as it was okay for the way Plantation owners used to beat and brand their slaves.

You seem to have a real knack for humanizing animals. I do not treat livestock poorly, neither do most cowboys. You will get fired for abusing livestock. Nor do I think that animals are less intelligent, they think differently.

I get tired of cleaning up the mess, when those abused horses need a home after being bronco bucked, and no one wants them... There isn't any demand for a bronco (unless it is a lucky one at the national level) so when they are no longer wanted they are trashed.

How do you clean up the mess and how are they abused?
A lot of bucking horses either get retired and go on to make saddle horses or if they were good enough get put into a breeding program.
Some of them even get turned into the pick up horses.

There are a lot of things I don't agree with in the horse industry, but one of my biggest dislikes is the old cowboy "breaker" mentality. Rodeos just seem to draw out that type. Maybe it is just around here, but the good cowboys who actually care about their animals (and treat their horses and women decently) are a rare find.
To classify all cowboys as horse and women beaters is pretty narrow minded don't you think? My husband does not beat or talk down to me. Nor does he beat our horses, livestock or dogs. I do think he is a rare find but not because he was the only cowboy that didn't beat the snot out of me. My friends are not beaten either. Beating a women or abusing livestock is never okay regardless of lifestyle! Sure their will always be women beaters and animal abusers but it isn't just cowboys that do it.
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I have a friend that works for a stock contractor that has had animals in the NFR. Those animals are treated extremely well. Bucking horses either go on as riding horses, breeding horses, or just get to live out their days in a pasture once their careers are over. They get the best hay/feed/vet/farrier care that money can buy, and they are all healthy. I don't know how other places do things, but this place is a class act, all the way.
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I was at my first rodeo and had never seen any rough stock events live. I think it was saddle bronc. The first horse that came out had this massive chunk of skin that was cut and dangling off her side. It was probably a 12x12 flap. I don't know what happened but I think there must have been something sharp in the chute that cut her. I was 10 at the time and totally freaked out like they did that to every horse.

People might figure out what this never rodeo is because its a unique event. I was watching the women's bareback race. Its where native american women just race around the track bareback. Anyway once there finished the race no one could get their horses stopped. One girl had fallen off during the race so her horse was running loose. That horse hit another horse and rider head on at full speed. Some guy go trampled trying to stop a horse. One of the horses looked like it broke a leg but I talked to the owner and she said the horse has recover and is fine. But it looked BAD. I think 2 people go taken to the ER.
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On another note, I know a man who has raised bucking bulls for years. He puts them in rodeos and hauls them to bucking futurities. Those bulls are probably taken better care of then most show horses. He told us last week he spends about $6 a day on supplements for his competion bulls O.O he's got 12 right now. And to see them they are well muscled athletes ready to go, all of them are shiney coated and healthy looking.
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post #67 of 120 Old 06-03-2013, 07:38 PM
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I dont go to many rodeos or really any events, Since I manly trail ride..

There are unfortunate accidents that happen in all sports but I find wild horse races and horse tripping cruel and unnecessary. I do not find it all a sport. :(
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^ Which brings me back to the "Prca" vs. "Ranch" vs "Mexican" rodeo...
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^ Which brings me back to the "Prca" vs. "Ranch" vs "Mexican" rodeo...
Yep its so true, it is not the "nice rodeos" where you will see that done but I think there should be more done to try to prevent or stop them from doing it.
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My 2 grandfathers, father, uncle, 2 cousins and my own brother are all cowboys. None of them have ever hit a woman. They would shoot themselves in the foot before they ever abused an animal or their wife & kids. They were taught respect and honesty.
On the other hand, I know a 76 year old "man" who worked for an insurance company all of his career and he beats his wife almost daily.
*sigh*
Anyway...My grandfather and dad held rodeos all the time on our property and they never treated livestock poorly. I can't remember any accidents happening, either. The only potentially dangerous thing that happened was a very sneaky, very clever horse who would untie himself from the trailer. He would also go around untying other horses around him. It was funny, but very dangerous. Luckily, no one got hurt.
There was a man who came to the rodeos my family hosted and he had a horse that he could enter in the saddle bronc competition, then let his wife run him in the barrel race the same night. He was a great, well-mannered horse for as long as we knew him.
I think the last time I saw someone get hurt wasn't at a rodeo, but it was at a playday. Some woman had a 7 year old girl on a finished barrel horse and she was strapped in with velcro. The horse stumbled and went down. He got up, then continued to run the pattern. Even though the little girl was strapped in, her upper body was flopping around everywhere. Since she had no control of the horse, he just kept on running and wouldn't stop even when he got to the gates. 3 men stopped the horse and got the little girl off of him. She broke her pinkie finger in the process, though I'm not sure how. Her parents are just lucky that the injuries weren't worse.

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