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post #11 of 19 Old 06-21-2013, 07:40 PM
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I'm not suggesting this is the only alternative, just putting it out there that sometimes it's not a matter of a horse's age when thinking about euthing, it's the quality of life that you must take into consideration.

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I have a couple whom are very interested to come see him on Wednesday but now I'm having second guesses. I really love this horse but with the amount of meds he needs and the prices of them and the fact that he may only be useable for a short time longer, it's going to cost me alot in the long run if I kept him. The people potentially interested in him just want him for trail riding. It would be for a maximum of an hour a week which would be great for him. I just need some encouraging words right now. Kinda down in the dumps about this whole thing. 😔
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post #13 of 19 Old 06-23-2013, 07:41 PM
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I'm with faye on this one. I would never give away a sick, old or unsound horse, especially not to fulfill my own riding goals. All my animals are going to be here for a lifetime, which is why I have one horse and not eight. My gelding has foundered in April and it is currently unclear when/if he will ever be sound again. But it is out of the question for me to pass him on (despite the fact that I'd LIKE to ride more...), we will just do whatever he is capable of.

At the point where I picked up riding as a hobby and bought a horse, I was aware that a) the horse might not meet my "needs" as I develop as a rider and b) the horse will not be sound forever. That's just the nature of the beast when participating in a sport which involves live animals.
I think if these are not things you want to deal with, then probably horse ownership isn't for you, cause the situation WILL come sooner or later with any horse. Maybe leasing or riding lesson horses is a better option if you're not willing to carry that risk.

To think that someone who picks up a free, unsound 13 year old gelding will keep him loved and well taken care of for a lifetime is a bit of an illusion. I'm sure it happens sometimes, but more often than not these horses go in a downward spiral fast. The people might be more patient in giving him time to heal, but they too will not want to pay huge vet bills forever for a horse they got for free and are not using. I agree that if you decided to get rid of him, euthanasia is probably the more humane option.
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post #14 of 19 Old 06-23-2013, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
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It's not only the riding goals aspect. It's the fact thy financially I cannot afford $1000s every couple months in medicine and special shoes. That's ontop of boarding, feed, etc.

And I would never give him to just anyone. And if nobody comes along that I feel is suitable then so be it. Ill keep him. I'm not in any huge rush to find him a home, either.
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post #15 of 19 Old 06-23-2013, 09:05 PM
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Even though others have already said it, your responses really don't sound like you're understanding what we're all thinking here... Don't sell a horse because its unrideable.
I always get mad at people that go selling their 30 year old horses because they don't want to be there when it finally dies. You're doing the same thing. You bought this horse without getting him checked by a vet. That's a mistake. Now you found out he won't be as usable and he'll cost extra money. So you want to give him to someone else. That's not fair to the horse. Or the people.
Just because you clued them in on the fact that he has soundness issues and requires medication doesn't make you a nicer person. You are handing off your problems without really taking the horse's well being into account. Sure, they're good people now but what happens when they don't notice his navicular has gotten worse and they continue riding him? Or if they end up with the same feelings as you? What if they sell him off and he bounces around because everyone decides he isn't worth the added medical expenses? This horse isn't going to magically get better and from the two experiences I've had with navicular horses, it gets bad and requires a lot of medicine in the end. Be the nice person and keep his life ahead of your other riding priorities.
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I'm not going to be bashed and made out to be some killer. Jesus...
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I don't think that is what the other posters are getting at, for the most part.

I think what they are saying is that you should decide what is best for the horse, not pass that responsibility down the road.

Does that make sense?

I may have some of this wrong since I've been reading on and off, but here's the gist:

1) the animal is not sound.
2) The animal is in pain.
3) The medications are expensive.
4) you are young, and paying for everything.
5) You cannot afford his meds, board AND vet emergencies
6) Even with the meds and farrier, the animal is still in pain, lord only knows how much.


So, if you cannot afford to keep him healthy and relatively pain free....I can see where the other posters are urging you to *consider* euthing him.

It's not that it's the only option, but in this economy, those people who can afford to have pasture pets have come close to their limits or are overlimit to what they can have. But your horse wouldn't just be a pasture ornament...he's in PAIN. He's expensive.

It is unlikely (not impossible but extremely unlikely) that you will find some generous being that will take him for the next 20 years of his PAINFILLED life, and keep him, as pain free as possible, given the cost of his meds.

Rescues are pretty full.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, and I don't think the other posters are. I think that you guys are sorta misreading eachother.

I think the OP is HOPING beyond hope that she can find a way that this young horse can live out his life, and she can move on the best way she can. But OP...I think the others are saying...sometimes, as an adult, things don't always end up nice. =(

If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, again, I've been reading here and there today to get out of packing...

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post #18 of 19 Old 06-23-2013, 10:30 PM
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Fact, Navicular is a PITA to deal with, but it is not always a death sentence.

I am on the fence with this one, this is completely different to people trying to give away the 30 year old horse who has served them faithfully, the OP hasn't got years invested in him, there is no debt of gratitude and mutual responsibility.

Next, he well be maintainable to be a great walk trot trail horse for the occasional rider, is it fair to maybe take the opportunity away from him?

Next, why do we always assume that the OP is the best home for this horse?

OP, I feel heart sick for you, it is a crappy situation to be in, there is no simple right or wrong answer here, do your best to find the best solution for everyone.

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post #19 of 19 Old 06-23-2013, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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I do understand where y'all are coming from excuse me for being a bit *emotional*. That darn womanly monthly nonsense is getting to me this month.

Anyway. He is sound with proper shoes and on his meds. Vet just told me he cannot jump or do barrels. But then she told my farrier the navicular is pretty bad. Which, she did not tell me.

So for the record so far he's staying sound with new shoes and on meds. He was sound at a walk before we diagnosed him with this but off at a trot but fine at a canter.

I lunged him today and he seems ALOT better now with our new shoeing regime but I may need to try another pair and see if we can make it even better then that. He is still a tad sore in his back end as the farrier clipped him too short.

But, after thinking tonight...and crying alot (like I said, emotional week. Heh.) I am going to try and afford all of this (this as in his shoes, meds, vet expenses, etc) to the best I can and if it comes down to it where his quality of life is meek I will have to go the euthing option. Hoping it won't be for awhile but I'm goin to prepare myself to expect it to come whenever.

Thanks, golden. I do agree. He isn't a horse who I've basically "ran hard and put away away wet" that now has a medical issue and I'm trying to pawn him off. Not even close to the case. He's still serviceably sound with meds and proper shoeing. He's just limited to flat work.
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