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post #31 of 83 Old 06-05-2013, 11:18 AM
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I won't lose sleep over it, but I do find it in poor taste.
However, this stallion is staying in the front of peoples minds so I can't help but think that was some of their intent.
I wouldn't even go that far, I guess a stablehand came up with it, because a name with the letter "P" was needed, his boss wrote it down, and it was copied by office folks, without even thinking.
I think the blame is with the folks who brought him over here, where this word is a very sensitive matter, without at least trying to get his name changed.
But I could be just too good for this world, not assuming bad intentions first, who knows...
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Unless we have a quote from the owners about why they named the stallion Pogrom, I'm not going to get too worked up about it. Yes, it can be taken in the wrong way; but a lot of things can. Everyone sees things differently. Becuase there is more then one meaning to the word it will be hard to prove their intent was to offend everyone who is Jewish. You can't just assume that was their intention.

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I wouldn't even go that far, I guess a stablehand came up with it, because a name with the letter "P" was needed, his boss wrote it down, and it was copied by office folks, without even thinking.
I think the blame is with the folks who brought him over here, where this word is a very sensitive matter, without at least trying to get his name changed.
But I could be just too good for this world, not assuming bad intentions first, who knows...
Off all the 'P' words though... Perhaps they should rename him ****off LOL

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They knew what it meant .. please. I had to look it up, but to those that speak the language .. they know what it is.

That's like saying "halocaust" really just means "catastophe" ... we ALL know what it means.

And the 'even more innocent' definition of the word they are trying to explain it away with .. I can't even find.

In VERY poor taste, imo.
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I did a little googling and this is what I saw

Pogrom | Define Pogrom at Dictionary.com

Word Origin & History

pogrom
1882, from Yiddish pogrom, from Rus. pogromu "devastation, destruction," from po- "by, through" + gromu "thunder, roar," from PIE imitative base *ghrem- (see grim).
Online Etymology Dictionary, 2010 Douglas Harper


While it was used as a term for the slaughter of peoples, the word did not come about strictly to define that.
Found it for you.
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Nope .. that is NOT the "even more innocent" definition that they are using to try to explain it...
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No, that is the true definition. The others were what people were TOLD, not actual known definitions.

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I know what the "origin" of the word is MB.. and I'm not going to argue with you.

When the original new articles came out about this stallion, his name, and the anti semitic meaning .. the word was explained away with another completely innocent polish definition. That is the one I can't find.

Trust me, I'm looking for an "innocent" reason someone would name a colt that ... besides being an idiot. I'm not finding it.. sorry.
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I won't lose sleep over it, but I do find it in poor taste.
However, this stallion is staying in the front of peoples minds so I can't help but think that was some of their intent.
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I wouldn't even go that far, I guess a stablehand came up with it, because a name with the letter "P" was needed, his boss wrote it down, and it was copied by office folks, without even thinking.
I'm betting the owner chose the name because they KNEW it would cause a giant fuss which would only serve to heighten the name recognition of the stallion.

Extremely poor taste and the registry should have been paying attention and refused to accept it as a name.

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I have boycotted german products for all my life.
I don't think attempting to punish an entire country for the actions of *some* is in any better taste!

I'm German-Italian and other than some hassle that's to be expected for having a German birth certificate while growing up in the US, nobody has ever treated me any differently just because I am of German descent and was born in Germany. My brother-in-law is Jewish and neither he nor any of his extended family has ever had an issue with my families heritage. They've happily stayed with me, educated me on the ins and outs of their religion as needed (as I wanted to provide them with appropriate meals and didn't have a clue what foods were or weren't allowed) and very graciously accepted my sister into their family.

I never would have dreamed that in this day and age, especially after WW2 and all that occurred that people would CHOOSE to persecute others based on actions they had no part in and weren't even alive during the occurrence of.
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I'm betting the owner chose the name because they KNEW it would cause a giant fuss which would only serve to heighten the name recognition of the stallion.

Extremely poor taste and the registry should have been paying attention and refused to accept it as a name.



I don't think attempting to punish an entire country for the actions of *some* is in any better taste!

I'm German-Italian and other than some hassle that's to be expected for having a German birth certificate while growing up in the US, nobody has ever treated me any differently just because I am of German descent and was born in Germany. My brother-in-law is Jewish and neither he nor any of his extended family has ever had an issue with my families heritage. They've happily stayed with me, educated me on the ins and outs of their religion as needed (as I wanted to provide them with appropriate meals and didn't have a clue what foods were or weren't allowed) and very graciously accepted my sister into their family.

I never would have dreamed that in this day and age, especially after WW2 and all that occurred that people would CHOOSE to persecute others based on actions they had no part in and weren't even alive during the occurrence of.
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