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post #51 of 83 Old 06-05-2013, 01:31 PM
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I doubt much will happen to the name since, if he's already got foals with points, doesn't that mean he cannot change his AHA name?

Boycott the breeder, dont breed, buy or support the breeders. But to drag a gorgeous stud through the mud over a name he cannot help, is asinine.
I've not heard a single person drag the stallion through the mud OVER HIS NAME.

dba is upset with those who named him.

I believe those that said anything negative about the horse .. spoke only of his rotten dispostion ..

*shrug*
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I've not heard a single person drag the stallion through the mud OVER HIS NAME.

dba is upset with those who named him.

I believe those that said anything negative about the horse .. spoke only of his rotten dispostion ..

*shrug*
Sure they have, this whole thread is full of that. This is no different than posting a stud (not owned by a forum member) to talk about breeding qualities. Disparaging remarks over a horses name (who wasn't named by current owner/leasor) to which cannot be changed. I'm sure if the stallion owner saw this thread, the fit would hit the shan.
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How interesting that the word used for violent slaughter of innocent people can now mean an overwhelming victory, in a positive light, in modern Poland. It kind of makes me feel that they, as a nation, have never come to grips with their guilt in their past actions, and their collusion in many of the Nazi actions against the Jews.
Well, aren't you just a bastion of kindness and understanding.

Tell me Tiny, have you as an American come to grips with your guilt in what the US did to the Japanese Americans in WWII? How about the African Americans, oh, pretty much from our country's inception right up until the late 1960s?

How noble of you to point out flaws in OTHER countries and their people. None of our countries is guiltless, and if you're going to point fingers at what another culture is or isn't guilty of, you'd better take a good hard look at yourself as well.
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Um ... we as Americans don't call "slavery" an "overwhelming victory" ... and "internment camps" aren't "playschools" ...

I think, as a nation, we have called it like it was. Even when I was a kid, I learned about the evils of slavery and the WWII internment camps ...

And .. Gollllleeeeee ... I live in the SOUTH!
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Btw TexasGal, here's a little light reading for you.

here's the word in a Polish newspaper talking about sports: Lekkoatletyka: pogrom sztafet - Sport - WP.PL

LEKKOATLETYKA: Mitingi, wyniki. Lekkoatletyka na IO londyn 2012 Przegladsportowy.pl

Pogrom sztafet - Pekin 2008 - SportoweFakty.pl

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Btw TexasGal, here's a little light reading for you.

here's the word in a Polish newspaper talking about sports: Lekkoatletyka: pogrom sztafet - Sport - WP.PL

LEKKOATLETYKA: Mitingi, wyniki. Lekkoatletyka na IO londyn 2012 Przegladsportowy.pl

Pogrom sztafet - Pekin 2008 - SportoweFakty.pl

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THank yoU! I was actually looking for that and couldn't find it ..! (I guess I FAIL at searching in polish..)
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Well, aren't you just a bastion of kindness and understanding.

Tell me Tiny, have you as an American come to grips with your guilt in what the US did to the Japanese Americans in WWII? How about the African Americans, oh, pretty much from our country's inception right up until the late 1960s?

How noble of you to point out flaws in OTHER countries and their people. None of our countries is guiltless, and if you're going to point fingers at what another culture is or isn't guilty of, you'd better take a good hard look at yourself as well.
you crack me up!
I lived 3 years in Japan. And , it was always an uncomfortable discussion topic, mostly due to our use of Nuclear bombs. I agree that none of our countries are guiltless. But I was talking about how a nation portrays it's own history.

Have I come to grips with my guilt? I don't' personally have any guilt for those actions. I was not there, had nothing to do with them. We are talking about nations, not persons.

Has the US come to grips with its' actions? I think there has been a ton of discussion and honest , open airing of what happened to Japanese Americans. Discussion of reparations have been made. There is NO attempt to hide what happened, and most will openly admit it was a cruel mistake.

Same with slavery. We do not hide the history of slavery from our school children.

We certainly should continue to seek to be open minded to learning the truth of our nation's ugliest moments. Such as our actions in the Phillipines, and the middle east and so on.

But, do I , personally , feel guilty? not really.
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Just to make my stance clear -

1. Beautiful horse
2. Questionable temperament
3. Terrible name

No mud slinging - just an unfortunate combination of factors.....now I wonder if the horse was from another country such as Australia or Canada and it was named Pogrom because it was a Polish Arab would there be an outrage??
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