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post #71 of 83 Old 06-05-2013, 04:23 PM
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If you plan to campaign your stud in another country, as a consumer "product" , you'd better take real care as to how you name it. Whatever it might mean in a dictionary in Poland, here it has a very negative meaning, and it is not reasonable to expect people to just ignore it. It's going to be offensive here.

Of course, the owners have every right to name the stud what they will, but they shouldn't be surprised when they bring him here, that it will elicit bad feelings.
You don't know that the breeders planned on him coming to the US. Should the owners name all their horses in names not offensive to people in the US in the possibility they might be imported here?
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post #72 of 83 Old 06-05-2013, 04:28 PM
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You don't know that the breeders planned on him coming to the US. Should the owners name all their horses in names not offensive to people in the US in the possibility they might be imported here?

No. But if they want to maximize their success here, they'd best think about it. It's only smart business and respectful international relations.
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post #73 of 83 Old 06-05-2013, 04:32 PM
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That's not entirely true. He seems to be doing well in the ring, he's a gorgeous horse, and his owner is entirely very pleasant to speak with. I doubt that the name is holding him back any.
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post #74 of 83 Old 06-05-2013, 05:03 PM
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I just did a google search, he has quite the foal crop, all are stunning. One has even been named Sir Pogrom. With quality, you can easily look past the name, especially since the word (in Poland) is not a negative thing. If the horse had been named Pogrom Żyd then I could understand being extremely upset. But as it's been pointed out, a couple different times, Pogrom means damaged. It doesn't mean 'kill all jewish people' or 'damage all americans'. It simply means damaged. This word will only upset you if you let it, getting crazy and ****ed and calling lawyers, and saying you are going to revoke your membership seems a little out there. If you're upset about Pogrom, are you also upset about blue tic coon hounds?
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post #75 of 83 Old 06-06-2013, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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Delfina what makes you think I boycott any businesses owned by people of german descent? Here in america?
I do not buy products made in Germany. I know of a lot of Jews that do not.
You do not share my families history so I dont expect anyone to understand.
I dont care if it upsets anyone.
The thought has occurred to me to name a foal the hebrew word for non jew to see if the AHA allows it.
The modern translation is accepted world wide. Non jews proudly call refer to themselves with the word. It still means someone who is unclean but that should not offend anyone. Should it?
I am indeed angry. It is deep rooted and this careless offensive name has indeed triggered resentment in my self.
Anger is a second hand emotion it comes from fear.
I fear that my children and grandchildren will still feel the sting of anti semitsm.
Is that such a bad thing? I think not.
Yes I will pursue this. I have talked to my Rabbi, contacted some powerful organizations we might even get the Israeli government to protest this.
I will keep you informed. Shalom
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post #76 of 83 Old 06-06-2013, 01:55 AM
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Delfina what makes you think I boycott any businesses owned by people of german descent? Here in america?
I do not buy products made in Germany. I know of a lot of Jews that do not.
You do not share my families history so I dont expect anyone to understand.
I dont care if it upsets anyone.
The thought has occurred to me to name a foal the hebrew word for non jew to see if the AHA allows it.
The modern translation is accepted world wide. Non jews proudly call refer to themselves with the word. It still means someone who is unclean but that should not offend anyone. Should it?
I am indeed angry. It is deep rooted and this careless offensive name has indeed triggered resentment in my self.
Anger is a second hand emotion it comes from fear.
I fear that my children and grandchildren will still feel the sting of anti semitsm.
Is that such a bad thing? I think not.
Yes I will pursue this. I have talked to my Rabbi, contacted some powerful organizations we might even get the Israeli government to protest this.
I will keep you informed. Shalom
I'm not one to get into religious things, but I feel someone may have a chip on their shoulder.....
One that may be slightly extreme.
Hey I'm ok with that, it's the Internet. But if you were my neighbor and and felt and acted the way you come across, you'd be be buying polydent by the case.
I have no issue with Jews. We actually lived right down the road from one of y'all's mosks.

Im a polish hillbilly married to a German, do you think maybe you're dragging on a long lived battle?


Seriously seems petty to me. But feel free to go all politically correct.

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Your tone and remark about a "mosk" are the only things petty that I have noticed on this thread. Your ignornace alone justifies any attitude you think that I have.
i dont care who you are or who you are married to , You are the one with a chip on your shoulder and I assure you if I was your neighbor I would still have all my teeth.
The problem lies with you. Your deep rooted antisemitism is your problem not mine.
Since anger is indeed based in fear... why are you so frightened of me?
People like you are the reason I am protesting this horses name.
My grandfather had 18 children, 14 of them lived to adulthood. All were educated and financially sound. He regained his lost business and when he died at the age of 105, he left all his many grandchildren a very nice inheritance.
Living well is the best revenge.
All I feel for you and others like you is down right pity. Justified it seems.
Your post in no way has angered me. It does however prove that I am right in this instance.
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Uh, I do have to ask where you read antisemitism in Phly's post db? Because he misspelled mosque?

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Howclever jews do not worship in a mosque. thats how. Shalom
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You're right. So does the fact that I had a lapse in memory and forgot that for a moment myself mean that I too am an anti-semite?

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