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post #131 of 155 Old 10-20-2013, 09:53 PM
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Since many of the men say they never get friction burns and many women say they do...I wonder if the fact that men usually have quite hairy legs would help to relieve the friction. Many women shave their legs so that any rubbing would be directly on the skin with no hair acting as a sliding agent.

Makes you think, no?
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post #132 of 155 Old 10-20-2013, 09:56 PM
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What makes me think is the length of discussions that horse people can have on the most random of discussions

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post #133 of 155 Old 10-20-2013, 10:01 PM
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Just fyi that is not what she wrote in her post. When her halfchap broke, she got rubs....as in without a halfchap. Being without it could be more troublesome for her...

Also the photos you linked I can see the top thigh area is stretched, pressure on your knee cap, and the infamouse bunching. It may hurt you, but if anything like that happens to me, I am rubbed raw and get blisters. And your leg isn't in "aligned" position to which dressage riders utilize, with their legs underneath them, heel aligned with hip, shoulder, and ear. That's what I meant, most riders that do enjoy wearing jeans do not require their leg to be underneath them, but more infront. As you can see in the photo. Nothing wrong with that, just an observation.

I don't ride in jeans unless I'm in a western saddle with a seriously long long leg. But even then I prefer breeches cause jeans are stiffer to me and therefore I get sore legs after being in them for hours whilst riding.

To each their own.

I read it fine
"no matter how much I smooth the material out under my half chap, the extra fabric ends up scrunching up and rubbing against my calf. I don't get burns on my thighs or anywhere else - just calves from extra fabric rubbing against my calf"

My silk pants feel GREAT and there's never any discomfort. I'll regret their eventual demise some day, but they've held up for 8 years of pretty rough use so far. They're doing better than any of my silk shirts (not sure why that is).
I'm sitting still and not riding so yes, my feet will be in a great many positions that feel good. Even stretching forward. I also don't like putting my heals down unless my feet are "home" in stirrup so when my feet are back my heels are up. As I said before...the ONLY thing I kept from dressage was balance. The rest was boring and abandoned when I discovered the wonderful world working on a horse and having it as your primary means of transportation (town was 15 miles away.....a nice days ride).
However, the dressage rider I know/knew....she moved to KY (who love to do shows and compete, but I only list one because she's the only dressage person who'd ride any kind of distance) and even jumpers I've known (probably should say Foxhunters ....they'd do a good long ride with me) all slide into a more comfortable position (since we're not jumping ) after we've been out for awhile. But as I was told when I ragged her about her position one day....something to the effect "it's a long time to have to sit that way when I can be more comfortable and this isn't a competition and you're not a judge" (and how right she was ). But she was already getting tired and we still had a ways to go to get back. Oh she had a lovely sorrel gelding. He was almost too dark to be a sorrel, but not enough to be a chestnut and he could go longer than she could.

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post #134 of 155 Old 10-20-2013, 10:15 PM
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Your problem is super easy to solve (besides going to spandex )
1. You can stop wearing your half chaps (that's pretty simple)
Not sure how the pants leg is rubbing your calf inside your chaps (material doesn't move in mine), but I guess it is somehow.
2. You can switch to the old Cav style leggings. your pants will not move around in them once you buckle them up so nothing will rub your calves.
3. Wear boots instead (while I don't care for them many riders...and jumpers ....swear by them). I prefer walking foot wear for my riding although I do own a pair of riding boots and even a pair of cowboy boots, I prefer not riding with them (combat boots work well if I want to wear boots )

Of course personally....I'd rather see the spandex (even if you weren't particularly comfortable in it).

Oh man if I don't wear half chaps there is burning for SURE, regardless of how tight the pants are. Just thinking about it makes me cringe because it hurts SO BAD. I don't know how some people don't ride without half chaps/tall boots. Although those may be the ones that don't get burns when wearing loose clothing either
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I think Allison makes a good point, sort of...kind of scary, eh, Allison? We agree about once a year, after all...

I'll refrain from describing my glorious legs, since I only wear shorts while jogging, and I do that in the desert so people won't have to see me.

"Men's facial hair acts as sort of support structure for the face, Rebecca Tung, MD, a dermatologic surgeon at Cleveland Clinic, tells WebMD. Men also have more collagen and elastin fibers -- the connective tissue that gives skin its strength and elasticity -- and a tighter network of fatty tissue directly under the skin.

As a result, men's skin is on average 20% to 30% thicker than women's skin, Tung says. And thicker skin does a better job of resisting wrinkles." - WebMD

Skin Care: It's Not Just for Women

Food for thought...

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post #136 of 155 Old 10-20-2013, 10:25 PM
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Since many of the men say they never get friction burns and many women say they do...I wonder if the fact that men usually have quite hairy legs would help to relieve the friction. Many women shave their legs so that any rubbing would be directly on the skin with no hair acting as a sliding agent.

Makes you think, no?
It's an interesting concept. The only thing I could think might have me say probably not is that in my youth when I rode a lot more (hey I worked livestock). When you figure in work and pleasure even 100 miles a week was not unheard of (especially if I had a long weekend and went camping). Anyway, as a teenager I had hairy legs (most guys do ) except where my legs where against the saddle. The hair got rubbed off after a time, but I'll never remember how long it took. Less than a year though. Of course it was mainly along the inside of the thighs so even in shorts it wasn't as noticeable.

I find it odd that the ladies have problem in loose pants with their calves, but the only place I ever chaffed, but from pants tighter than I should have worn (and I did it righteously) was my thighs. I understand how mine happened, but just can't see the calf problem.

No matter....stay in the spandex. The men won't mind. (We'll encourage you)

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post #137 of 155 Old 10-20-2013, 10:37 PM
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I think Allison makes a good point, sort of...kind of scary, eh, Allison? We agree about once a year, after all...

I'll refrain from describing my glorious legs, since I only wear shorts while jogging, and I do that in the desert so people won't have to see me.

"Men's facial hair acts as sort of support structure for the face, Rebecca Tung, MD, a dermatologic surgeon at Cleveland Clinic, tells WebMD. Men also have more collagen and elastin fibers -- the connective tissue that gives skin its strength and elasticity -- and a tighter network of fatty tissue directly under the skin.

As a result, men's skin is on average 20% to 30% thicker than women's skin, Tung says. And thicker skin does a better job of resisting wrinkles." - WebMD

Skin Care: It's Not Just for Women

Food for thought...
Now thicker skin might do it, but does thicker mean less sensitive? It's beyond me. I might be educated, but stopped well short of a medical degree and even shorter of a degree in dermatology .

However..........the cheeky git in me just can't let it pass. I'm sorry ladies, but I can't resist (ok, no, I'm not "really" sorry about it , but I probably should be )

Men have always known that women were thin skinned
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I read it fine
"no matter how much I smooth the material out under my half chap, the extra fabric ends up scrunching up and rubbing against my calf. I don't get burns on my thighs or anywhere else - just calves from extra fabric rubbing against my calf"
Notice how she was referring to the extra loose material. Without the halfchap there would still be loose material. Ergo it's not the halfchap causing the issues.

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What makes me think is the length of discussions that horse people can have on the most random of discussions

Oh, it's even better as the topics change and the thread keeps going.

At times I'm reminded of Shari Lewis and the "Song that never ends". Ok, if you're old enough....Shari and Lamb Chop (and of course Charlie Horse).
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What makes me think is the length of discussions that horse people can have on the most random of discussions
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