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post #11 of 33 Old 08-08-2013, 10:53 AM
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Do y'all pass on every horse that was started before your "ideal" age? How do you guarantee an older horse was not started before said age, especially if it's had more than one owner? Starting at 2 does not guarantee a lame horse any more than starting at 4 will prevent a horse from ever going lame.

Not trying to be snarky, I'm honestly curious.
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post #12 of 33 Old 08-08-2013, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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Good point cynical. I have an older mare here that is already very arthritic, who is to say its not from being started to soon as I have no history on her.
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Do y'all pass on every horse that was started before your "ideal" age? How do you guarantee an older horse was not started before said age, especially if it's had more than one owner? Starting at 2 does not guarantee a lame horse any more than starting at 4 will prevent a horse from ever going lame.

Not trying to be snarky, I'm honestly curious.
Much depends upon the horse. The OP stated the horse was not only started before 2, but was small and immature. Under those circumstances there is too much risk of issues later on and yes, I would always pass on a horse like that. Always. There is no reason to buy an "at risk" horse when there are plenty of sound horses around with no issues.

No, starting a horse at 4 is no guaranty of not having issues, but that is not relevant to the question at hand. The horse in question is 2 right now - not 4, so the comparison to make would be to a 2 year old that had not been backed.

People that back horses before 2 are either ignorant, stupid, or irresponsible, or a combination thereof - I don't care WHO they are...
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post #14 of 33 Old 08-09-2013, 01:24 AM
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I could see buying the horse to save him from the situation, but ideally no, I would not actively seek a horse that was started that young. I am very set on "preserving" a young horse. Not only are the legs of concern, but the back, and the psychological well being. Babies need to be babies, not be thrown into a strenuous work load.
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post #15 of 33 Old 08-09-2013, 01:29 AM
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I am both English and ride English, if it were my choice, I wouldn't ride a horse before 5.

However, as I am broke, most of my horses have been OTTBs ridden and raced at 2-3.

I'd prefer in an ideal world that a horse is not ridden at that age, but my budget forces me to look at ones who have.

If you have a choice, then pass this horse.
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post #16 of 33 Old 08-09-2013, 01:42 AM
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my girl is May 2011.....but she is 15 hands and not small or underdeveloped. I HAVE an underdeveloped gelding her age, and I wouldnt put even a saddle on him!

My girl was given 30 days with two weeks under saddle by a trainer that weighed 100 pounds. I have been on her back maybe 3, 4 times total at a WALK for no more than 20 minutes at a time. I tested her trot (heh) and was told she canters, but im in no rush to do it!

So I think it depends...I think if you trust the person who was on their back, and know they didnt do anything strenuous, then maybe. Many people ride 2 year olds that come out fine, but Im not5 sure Id want a 2 year old that was ridden by someone who was overzealous...especially on a really underdeveloped animal.

That being said, at least you know his history. How often is this mentioned when we buy an adult animal? Or do people just jump on, find the ride good and not worry about it? I guess it all depends...I got my head mare at an auction. She coulda been broke as a yearling for all I know! *shrug* Just take a look at him and make the best decision for you. :)

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Demon, you know, I like you, but I disagree.

To the human eye, developed or not does not change the age that bones develop. A horse might well be big and strong looking, for their age, but I don't think that makes them so.

I am skinny as heck, everyone calls me a rake, and I weigh 125. I don't know too many 100lb men, I don't think I have met once since we stopped owning race horses, and they were all in the 5' range.



People do things differently. Western horses tend to be broke young, as do race horses in the English world. If I had the money to breed and raise my own, I wouldn't back them until 4-5. It's personal choice.
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I would just to get it out of there, throw out in a field to let grow and then restart in a year. I would want a PPE done first though. Some people...
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post #19 of 33 Old 08-09-2013, 02:19 AM
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I start horses at two. With no ill effects.

But the way you make this seller sound, I would pass.
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.

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post #20 of 33 Old 08-09-2013, 02:22 AM
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Alex, Im on the fence. I dont think things should be done one way because theyve ALWAYS been done that way, but I also think people go a little nuts sometimes. For example before I was born, pregnant women had the occasional beer, recommended by the doctor. Now if a pregnant woman had a beer, someone would call the cops! Thats probably a good change, right? But literally everything changed in the 7 year gap between my kids....did everything about children change in 7 years? Just pop over to a preg forum and say you're gona use bumpers, See how fast the sharks draw blood!

My horse was started lightly with no bit and isnt really ridden. She will prob get another 30, 60 days in a year or so.I sincerely doubt she will be crippled by this. Did no one give piggy back rides as a kid? In any case, my riding horse is 20 years old, and if I want go ride....rare lately...its her that gets to suffer with me for awhile. And she has noooo problem wanting to go fast, which is something I would not make my 2 year old do.

All Im saying is that not all 2 year olds have been destroyed by being broken in at what is now considered "early". And many people dont actually KNOW if their horse counts among those. Its a personal decision, and if the horse is nice, call the vet out.

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