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post #11 of 28 Old 07-13-2013, 11:47 AM
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I'm right in the middle of Southern and Frankn.
Personally, if someone doesn't like me saying Merry Christmas or Good Day or Howdy Ya'll they could blow me. HOWEVER... one must have business etiquette to run a successful business.
That being said, your beliefs are your own and if someone wouldn't purchase a horse (I've sold horses to people with different beliefs..) just because of your religion rather then your stock... HOWEVER, I do have two FB pages - one personal, one business. The only thing that goes on WS Arabians is horse related - but as someone said, Google is an open tool - I use the same handle everywhere so if someone really didn't want to buy from a crazy, gun-toting redneck, they probably wouldn't buy from me anyway. And that's okay, there's always another buyer.
It's kind of a Catch 22, isn't it?
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My concern is about going out a buying some good racing mares with proven records. That is going to be very expensive and will be another direction in my breeding program. I have yet to make that decision but Sam opens up that avenue for me.
I would want to at least earn most of that money back.
To be honest my children would like me to so they can have a bigger inheritance. LOL
I am also in the process of retiring full time and I do not want to compromise my lifestyle too much. Or incur too many expenses that will drain my bank account .
JulieG I would not erase anything I have ever said and there is a lot of times that I have put my foot in my mouth. Censorship however I detest and those OOPS moments make for great laughs now that I have taken that foot out of my mouth. LOL Shalom
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post #13 of 28 Old 07-13-2013, 12:02 PM
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Admittedly I am not strongly religious, but I keep religion out of my business dealings. It has nothing to do its being close minded or offended, I just don't think that is the time or place for it.

And yes I do find it slightly irritating when someone is ends every single email with a religious quote or saying when it is a business transaction. I don't need anyone's religion constantly put in front of me (whether I agree with their religion or not). Would it be a deal breaker - not 100% but if I could get the same 'product' from someone not putting religion in to the transaction I would be inclined toward them.
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post #14 of 28 Old 07-13-2013, 12:06 PM
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I agree- i dont think you should have to change who you are as a person to have a business- it makes makes you unique and stand out from the crowd.. its neat to me- shows you stand for something.
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post #15 of 28 Old 07-13-2013, 12:10 PM
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I agree- i dont think you should have to change who you are as a person to have a business- it makes makes you unique and stand out from the crowd.. its neat to me- shows you stand for something.
You just reminded me of one of my favourite lines from a song:

"If you don't stand for something, you might fall for anything"
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post #16 of 28 Old 07-13-2013, 01:26 PM
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If I were in your shoes, I would not use the word on my business related page. That said, if you do here & there, so be it, it is who you are and anyone who passes on using your stallions for that reason alone, is probably not someone you want to do business with any way. It's not like you are posting/sharing internet memes and articles with a religious or government spin.

I admit to passing on a boarding stable because their website had so many Christian messages in it. I was looking for horse care, not church.
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post #17 of 28 Old 07-13-2013, 01:40 PM
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Do you run your business by the standards of your religious beliefs?

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Roady there are over 700 commandments passed from the G-D to Moshe. Some contradict the others.
So I dont know how to answer your question . I do believe the essence of the Hebrew bible is "do not do unto your neighbor what is hateful unto you".
I am honest in my dealings and I guard my reputation with my life.
I do not however seclude myself from the outside world as some ultra orthodox jews do according to some of those very commandments .
I do buisness with people of other religions and socialize with them.
Shalom
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Roady there are over 700 commandments passed from the G-D to Moshe. Some contradict the others.
So I dont know how to answer your question . I do believe the essence of the Hebrew bible is "do not do unto your neighbor what is hateful unto you".
I am honest in my dealings and I guard my reputation with my life.
I do not however seclude myself from the outside world as some ultra orthodox jews do according to some of those very commandments .
I do buisness with people of other religions and socialize with them.
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I just remembered Shalom is part of the Hebrew language more so than part of Jewish religion.

I also understand your quote as our bible teaches us " Do unto others as you would have done unto you".


Also we have this "So if what I eat causes another believer to sin, I will never eat meat again as long as I live--for I don't want to cause another believer to stumble".

Both meaning the same as yours..


The meaning behind Shalom is, as you said, is peace or as I see it as have a good(peaceful) day. It is universally known, seen and heard. Heck I have even used it because I like the word.

You say you have a diverse client base, I also work in a diverse job with Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Jamaican and several other countries. Some of our cultural lifestyles are a direct contradiction to what they knew before, but in order for us to be productive we are able to accept our differences for the greater good.

I may be completely ignorant to how sensitive your client base is to something as simple as a Hebrew word , but I figured if they were that sensitive to it then they would never have contacted you in the first place. That or they will discontinue business as soon as they recognize your religion.


Going back to both your religious quotes and mine, it leads me to the fact that if you feel it is an issue then it is. If for no one else but you and you should make your decision based morally on that fact...


I am too wordy this week.. lol I need to go work out in the pasture this evening to get rid of some of this thinking energy..lol

Have a great afternoon..

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Roady if I promote Rushin Sam as a racehorse sire some of my potential clients and customers will live in Muslim countries.
There is a lot more arabian racing in those countries and in Europe than here in the USA.
Spending tens of thousands of dollars on new bloodlines, facilities, advertisement , collecting semen, from Sam and his offspring would demand that I explore any revenue from all sources.
I dont want to spend all this money and time changing or branching my breeding program in another direction just to be locked out of a very lucrative market.
I have purchased and promoted a stallion in the past. I sold him to an overseas buyer. I did have a better offer but my heritage was a problem for the potential buyer who is a member of a muslim countries ruling family. A distant relative, but the political situation in the Middle East at that time and between the Israelis and the buyers country halted the sale.
There was no skin off my back at the time but once I decide to promote Sam as a racehorse sire the middle eastern market is the most lucrative and probably the largest.
I am not ever going to deny who I am or bow to pressure to appease anyones antisemtism.
Your right Shalom has no religious meaning. However only Jews speak hebrew. That in itself tells someone what my heritage, ethnicity, and religion are. In a single word. Shalom
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