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post #1 of 9 Old 04-06-2019, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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100 Day Mustang Makeover Youth Challenge Questions

So I have been wanting to do the mustang makeover challenge for a while now and I have finally gotten a chance to maybe do it this summer. I found a local one in MA from an organization called "its a pleasure training" If any of you are familiar with it, do you know if you can re-adopt it to another person at the end of the show? the problem is I can't keep the horse for after 100 days just because of expenses.

Also if you know of any CHEAP 5' tall round pen panels let me know.

And one last thing, if you know of any 3 sided horse shelters that aren't made from a tarp and are fairly affordable I would love to hear.

I do have more questions so be prepared lol.

Thank you and I hope i hear from you guys!

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Now. I’ve never done this and don’t have much experience training, but I can say this:

- If you don’t have the funds to keep a horse long term, I wouldn’t do it. There’s a potential for vet bills or other costs during the 100 days along with a potential that you will have to keep the horse for months or years before it sells. This is not a ‘from experience’ advice, but ‘from research, reading, and endless stalking of horse for sale advertisements’ advice.

- To work with a mustang, you need a LOT of trust. If you work with the horse for 100 days and then send it to someone else, there’s a potential that those people will be stuck with realitively green, untrusting horse... which could turn dangerous and end up getting the horse sent to a kill pen. Again: not from experience, but from observance. Just watching some of the YouTube videos of the 100 days (which generally only show the surface or are timelapsed) you can see exactly how much patience and trust is needed.

- you could probably build a 3 sided horse shelter out of wooden pallets and some roofing realitively cheap. Around here, people will basically give the pallets away if you ask (but always offer to pay...). You don’t have to be too handy, either. Also, depending on your location, you may not need one over the summer... I know plenty of horses in the area that basically fend for themselves... trees also make good cover.
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Why not contact the organization and as them directly about re-adopting?

Or look through the website like I did to get this bit of info
" 17. If the adopter is unable to keep their Mustang/burro after the competition, it is his/her responsibility to find a new adopter for the animal. The original adopter must sign appropriate BLM relinquishment paperwork and the new
adopter must sign appropriate BLM adoption paperwork in order to reassign the animal. "

In the past I've seen it where you train the horse, then it goes into the auction at the end of the show. People bid, and you can bid on your own horse too. If there are no bids the BLM will reclaim the horse or you can send the horse back to them.

I know in the youth competition there's no riding, it's just working with foals on groundwork and handling. BUT I'm still with @ThatRoanHorse about the trust, and how green the horses are.

I personally own a former 100 day mustang makeover mustang. He was broke to ride by a 18-19yo and adopted by a family I used to live near. They "were experienced" (at looking at horses standing around and pictures of horses haha) adopted 3 mustangs. 2 died while in their possession, and one they were able to sell. The man who bought him neglected him, and I felt so bad I bought him after that knowing I could manage and handle him and that was what he needed in his life and what I could offer. He's still not a great horse, 3 years since the makeover were still working on basic stuff that should have been addressed at the beginning of his training and likely just wasn't. It will be several more years before he is able to be a good riding horse for anyone, but he has a nice personality so that's fine for me. I just hope that those makeover horses avoid the distress mine had to go through.
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Whether or not you "want" to do this isn't the only consideration.

Experience:
Do you have experience working with a "wild", untouched horse?
Do you have experience working with a horse that knows nothing?

Time:
As they say with horses, you get what you put in.
Do you have the time to go out and spend hours a day every day with this horse? Three hours on the weekend isn't going to work, especially if you only have a hundred days.

Money:
You need to think about other things besides the one hundred days of care.
What happens if you can't sell the horse? I think it'd be irresponsible to do this if you are unable to afford care after a hundred days. You horse on your property means that it is your responsibility. Lack of money doesn't change that.
Can you afford possible emergency care? What about basic vet care?
Can you afford a possible hospital/doctors visit if you get hurt? What if it is a permanent/long term injury?
What if the horse breaks something, such as a fence? Could you afford fixing it?

Other:
How old are you? If you are a minor, what do your parents/guardians think?
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@EquiLib rum Yes I have the experience, I have worked with 7 different horses all of which are extremely green 3 were rescues 1 was an ottb 1 was a poa and 2 were TWH. I think that answers your second question as well:) The rescues had to be restarted. Well I spend every day at the barn so yes i have the time. I guess what I meant to say is this, I have enough money to fully support a horse for years its just that Im going to college in 3 years so I will not have the time then in college to give the attention that it needs. Yes I can afford all of this after my years of training horses and making and selling stuff to save up for this.
I am 15 and my parents think I'm crazy for wanting to do this but they still support me:)
I am going to be taking part in the competition next year because I am buying a resell project horse this year to add a little money. thank you for replying and making me think about this!
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I have personal experience with this horse trust thing as I have worked with 3 rescues that were very scared and fiesty around humans. I think its even harder gaining trust from a rescue horse because humans have already broken their trust, with a mustang you basically have a clean slate and can show them that humans are worth trusting and it will be easier because there is no broken trust.
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A domestic rescue horse is a completely different animal than a mustang. Most domestic horses will not charge you if you over face them. Mustangs can and will, and they do it so fast you won't see it coming. Seven horses does not really qualify as much experience. Your enthusiasm is admirable, but it's also the attitude that can get you hurt.
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with a mustang you basically have a clean slate and can show them that humans are worth trusting and it will be easier because there is no broken trust.
This is not true. Depending on where the mustang came from, they have had any number of horrible experiences at the hands of humans: the round up, the sorting, the shipping to the adoption facility, the adoption process, etc.
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Watch "Wild Horse Redemption" if you haven't already. I think it's still on Amazon Prime video. Then decide if this is really something you want you can do. There are some easy horses on there, and one blaze-faced sorrel, if I remember right, who would rather eat people for lunch, and even the experienced trainers don't want anything to do with him. A 5' fence wouldn't hold him, I can tell you that.

I've worked with some mustangs. Most were decent horses and I enjoyed them. A couple were dangerous, and I've seen them strike or kick so fast, and with no warning, you won't see it coming. There is NO COMPARISON to a domesticated breed, even a scared one, and the quickness of a mustang. Their experiences with people have not been pleasant-- they've been forced into pens, into chutes, into halters, into trucks and trailers. They do not trust, and it's not from no experience, it's from frightening experiences. There is far less room for error; a domestic horse will usually tolerate a mistake on your part. A mustang will not. They can be great horses, but I think you need more experience first, for your safety. You're young and enthusiastic, and I was that way once, but it was sheer luck that I'm not dead. Mustangs are not the 'butterflies and roses and this horse will learn to trust me and we'll gallop off into the sunset'. The rare one may be, but most need a lot more work and even then, you have a horse that is worth practically nothing. Even a broke one is not worth much.

Spend $1000 on a nicely bred, well-handled, registered Quarter Horse yearling or two-year-old from a good program. Get your groundwork done this year. Start him lightly under saddle next summer. If you do it right, you'll have a good chance at a horse you can sell for what you've got into him, will have learned, and will hopefully have given a horse a good start. You're a lot more likely to stay safe, and have a horse you can sell before you go to college and get him a good home.
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