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post #1 of 9 Old 05-15-2016, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
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Accepting syringe

Okay first off I probably should have done what I'm doing before I dewormed my horse, cause now she's a pain.
I have a farrier coming out and my mule has to be sedated, so I've been using applesauce in a syringe to get them use to it. I figured I should prepare my horse too if ever needed, it's oral and goes under the tongue, what do you know my horse is like "nooo", head going everywhere.
So how do you get your horse use to a syringe enough that they'll stand still so I can insert it under the tongue?
They both know there is applesauce in the tube, but they're like "it isn't going in at the side of my mouth!", they'll lick it off my hand or take it at the front, I'm going to try molasses because I know they love that more.
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Honestly, I've wormed many horses and the best technique is to just stick it in and stop worrying about it.

I am curious how you go about this.

I would put the halter on, with a chain if I needed a little more control, then use the halter to hold their head in position (up but not too high) while also putting a little twist in the halter with your holding hand so you are holding more securely (it will apply a little more pressure to them so they know they are supposed to be behaving too). That twist really does the trick. Then I stick it in and press the plunger. I see no reason to have them think "oh I love this". Having the applesauce is great, but no need to go crazy with it. You don't need to be rough about it just no nonsense. I am 5'3" and haven't found a horse I can't worm. One I hand twitched in the moment but he was a spoiled horse in a herd of 15 that the lady said "oh can you worm them all" and I didn't want to deal with it. My own I worm loose in the pasture. Respect goes a long way and yanking their head away they are basically saying "blank you".

Our boarder gave up worming a long time ago. He is far bigger than I am and couldn't get near his own horse with it. I still can't figure it out, apparently he was sneaking up holding out the wormer telling the horse it was ok blah blah. That horse doesn't even know I have the wormer until after I've caught him! lol. Do NOT make a big deal about it and you will ALL be better off.
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Honestly, I've wormed many horses and the best technique is to just stick it in and stop worrying about it.

I am curious how you go about this.
Well when I wormed them it was easy, I did it quickly and it was over.
But for some reason now she's acting up, I hold her face still and insert and then just plunge.
Now when it touches her lip she's like "NOPE", I don't make a big deal of it because I don't need them thinking it is a big deal. I can get it in and over with but I need to be able to get it in and under the tongue, that's the main problem. They won't stand still long enough for me to make sure it's inserted properly.
I go to put my finger in her mouth and she kicks up a fit until my finger is in her mouth and then just stops and stays still.

I'll have to try the chain.
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but I need to be able to get it in and under the tongue, that's the main problem.
Why? Why do you need to get something under the tongue?

This is a new one on me and I've been shoving pills and wormer tubes in horses mouths for years.

Please explain:)
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Why? Why do you need to get something under the tongue?

This is a new one on me and I've been shoving pills and wormer tubes in horses mouths for years.

Please explain:)
It's probably Dormosedan. Dormosedan is a sublingual sedation medication (under the tongue). It enters the bloodstream through the mucous membrane into the capillaries under the tongue. If a horse swallows it instead it is digested by the stomach and is not as effective or ineffective for systemic sedation.

I've given it before by using my hand instead of a syringe, putting the medication on my fingers (wearing a glove), opening the side of the mouth and rubbing the medication under the tongue. You could practice with some applesauce or honey.
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It's probably Dormosedan. Dormosedan is a sublingual sedation medication (under the tongue). It enters the bloodstream through the mucous membrane into the capillaries under the tongue. If a horse swallows it instead it is digested by the stomach and is not as effective or ineffective for systemic sedation.

I've given it before by using my hand instead of a syringe, putting the medication on my fingers (wearing a glove), opening the side of the mouth and rubbing the medication under the tongue. You could practice with some applesauce or honey.
Thank you very much

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When you are restraining her head, are you putting your hand over her nose? If so, try using that hand to hold her lower jaw instead (still on the side opposite you are dosing the meds with). Slip your fingers into the back of the mouth and hold onto the bars. Then you can hopefully slip the syringe into the corner of the mouth and get it under the tongue.

I would also ask your vet if the medication has to be literally under the tongue. The entire inside of the mouth is a giant mucus membrane, so assuming your horse doesn't have a bunch of food in there, I would think the medication could be absorbed just as easily from on the tongue or in the cheek.
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Get something thick like a blanket, put that over their heads so they are totally in the dark, spin them in a couple of circles and just insert the syringe.

Always stand facing the same way as the horse so you are out the way if it does something untoward.
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Oh yeah I somehow missed that part lol. She's just playing games. Maybe you could just poke her instead?

If you need "target practice" I would think your fingers would be easier too. I would just hold her still (halter, chain, hand twitch, whatever need be, less is more but you don't want to get into a tug of war either) then quickly "touch and retreat", before she has a chance to fuss, with something very tasty and intriquing. Then walk away and ignore her. Not a big deal. Then later repeat, etc. After awhile she'll just be "oh ok" and get over it. Don't worry about winning her over or allowing her to be all dramatic, just get something tasty in and then you get out.
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