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post #11 of 22 Old 12-19-2011, 09:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone - these are all such good answers! I think I want to train and maybe instruct lessons at a well known horse barn. I wouldn't want to be self-employed, as I've heard from many people that it doesn't work out so well. I looked at working student positions, but I've also heard that many of them treat you like crap and it's not worth it. Also, for college I've been looking at William Woods University, which is known for its amazing equestrian program. Any other ideas?
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post #12 of 22 Old 12-19-2011, 09:27 PM
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Thanks everyone - these are all such good answers! I think I want to train and maybe instruct lessons at a well known horse barn. I wouldn't want to be self-employed, as I've heard from many people that it doesn't work out so well. I looked at working student positions, but I've also heard that many of them treat you like crap and it's not worth it. Also, for college I've been looking at William Woods University, which is known for its amazing equestrian program. Any other ideas?
Good plan (: Personally, I think you might be able to make enough $ to sustain yourself, but you have to work REALLY HARD. As in no vacations, riding like 20 horses per day... Don't get discouraged though. Anyone can do something when they set their mind to it (:
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post #13 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 12:40 AM
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SorrelHorse has it right in both posts.

If you are dedicated and good enough (that really means you are 'gifted' and a 'natural'), you will MAKE it work.

Others get bitter like Mstar or fail and stay broke.

I have an apprentice that lives here, now. Even though she is quite young, she is working out very well. She gets on 6 to 10 horses a day and has husband or I watching her most of the time. [We just got too darned old and decrepit to do it any more.]

The people that are good at it and meant to do will get it done. Most will not get rich, but it is a labor of love and so fulfilling. There is real truth to the old saying - "If you get a job that you love, you will never work a day in your life." That is how I feel. I just wish I could ride another 20 years, but my body just will not let me. I have already outlasted my 3 half brothers and they are 3-15 years younger than I, so the hard physical work has possibly lengthened my useful years. It is difficult to beat back congenital health problems, but I have tried.
Not bitter at all, just stating facts and realities that some people don't consider (myself and many other people I've known included). It all sounds fun to ride horses all day and get paid but thats rarely how it really works. I'm offering my advice. I wouldn't trade my time or experiences for anything in the world. I learned SO much about horses and life in general, and got to live out all my dreams. I worked very hard, for some top trainers, and could have gotten somewhere big had I wanted to. But my goals in life changed. And I saw so many people who had made horses their life and no matter how hard they worked or how good they were, they still couldn't make ends meet(bad luck, horse related injuries, etc). Yes that's life and yes those are the chances you take when following a dream. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with having a dream to work with horses and going for it either. But me telling it like it is doesn't mean I'm "bitter".
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post #14 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 09:59 AM
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I'm going to college to become a vet tech. and I plan on training on the side after I pass my VTNE. Making good money only being a trainer is sooo hard. As for advice... shadow, shadow, shadow. Different people. The good and the bad. Take notes, write down tips. Have them watch you ride. Watch youtube videos and read post after post on here or books. Try to get a job exercise riding or just cleaning stalls and work your way up. Good luck!
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post #15 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 01:20 PM
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It's really hard to make a decent living with horses. Being someone else's employee, other than to gain experience from a successful operation, is not the way to go about it for the long haul. It's taken me most of my life but I finally figured out that to be successful in the horse business, you don't need to own horses yourself, you need to provide services or products to people who do. The most successful trainers don't own a single horse, they enjoy all those lovely, top horses that their clients bring them. They own the facilities, provide the board (that's where you can make the money) and train and show their clients horses. If you like driving, hauling can be fairly lucrative too.

I've always had a boarder or 2 mixed in with my own horses, but this past year I have had MANY boarders and really taken good care of their horses. I literally take care of them as if I owned them and their owners love that. The see me feed exactly what my horses get fed to their horses, I line 'em up and groom them every day and clean everyone's stall or turnout exactly the same. Because the drought is so bad, I am not making a huge amount, feed is ridiculous, but I can charge more than the average stable here because of the service I provide. Look very carefully for a niche that needs filling and provide that service, and you can succeed.

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post #16 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 01:29 PM
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It's really hard to make a decent living with horses. Being someone else's employee, other than to gain experience from a successful operation, is not the way to go about it for the long haul. It's taken me most of my life but I finally figured out that to be successful in the horse business, you don't need to own horses yourself, you need to provide services or products to people who do. The most successful trainers don't own a single horse, they enjoy all those lovely, top horses that their clients bring them. They own the facilities, provide the board (that's where you can make the money) and train and show their clients horses. If you like driving, hauling can be fairly lucrative too.

I've always had a boarder or 2 mixed in with my own horses, but this past year I have had MANY boarders and really taken good care of their horses. I literally take care of them as if I owned them and their owners love that. The see me feed exactly what my horses get fed to their horses, I line 'em up and groom them every day and clean everyone's stall or turnout exactly the same. Because the drought is so bad, I am not making a huge amount, feed is ridiculous, but I can charge more than the average stable here because of the service I provide. Look very carefully for a niche that needs filling and provide that service, and you can succeed.
I've considered getting into doing hauling myself. Is there really much of a market for it, in your opinion? I do like to drive, and I've successfully loaded every horse I've come across so far. Sounds like it could be a good niche!
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post #17 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 01:40 PM
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I went to college for engineering (and currently work in that field). Even though I was a very horse-crazy kid, my parents couldn't afford lessons for me, and so I didn't get to start riding until I got a paid internship the summer before I graduated college. That was a little over 5 years ago. Ever since then, the more time I've spent with horses, the more time I've wanted to spend with them, and I looked quite seriously into changing careers.

However, I couldn't find anything that seemed realistic for me. I don't have enough experience to make a living riding/training/teaching, and although I have some very good ideas for a boarding stable, I simply don't have the capital to buy the land and build one. The couple of times I've seen barn manager positions open up in my area, I've inquired, but no one is really interested in hiring a barn manager who's only been riding for 5 years.

Maybe one day down the road... but I don't see it happening anytime in the next decade.
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post #18 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 02:31 PM
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If you really want to make your love for horses into a full time job, you definitely have to network. Talk to anyone and everyone you can involved with horses at every stage. Networking, in my opinion, is the single most important thing when it comes to employment.

"Ah, you know my weaknesses--my children and my horses." - Ulysses S. Grant
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post #19 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 02:35 PM
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I've considered getting into doing hauling myself. Is there really much of a market for it, in your opinion? I do like to drive, and I've successfully loaded every horse I've come across so far. Sounds like it could be a good niche!
Check out some of the horse haulers that have established routes and look at the amount of business they do. I don't even haul for a living and yet, seems like every time I go to a show I end up hauling however many open slots I've got, for other people. Again, I don't think anyone is going to get rich doing this, but a good hauler is worth his weight in gold. I can't tell you how furious I've been when I get a horse unloaded and he looks like he went 10 rounds with Mike Tyson, scuffed up, nicked, cut, and dehydrated. When I find a hauler who does whatever it takes to get the horses from point A to point B relaxed, sane, healthy and well fed & hydrated, that hauler will get repeat business and many referrals from me.
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post #20 of 22 Old 12-20-2011, 03:52 PM
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I'm going to college to become a vet tech. and I plan on training on the side after I pass my VTNE. Making good money only being a trainer is sooo hard. As for advice... shadow, shadow, shadow. Different people. The good and the bad. Take notes, write down tips. Have them watch you ride. Watch youtube videos and read post after post on here or books. Try to get a job exercise riding or just cleaning stalls and work your way up. Good luck!
I couldn't agree more with Mocha.
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