But I've never had a horse who never learned. Of course, I haven't owned 200 horses. I'm discussing the handful I've owned. But with that handful, what I'm writing is 100% true.
'When your horse won’t step where you want him to, it tells me that he’s in charge,” says top trainer/clinician Julie Goodnight.
You know what it tells me? It tells me the horse is confused, uncertain, nervous, scared, etc. I've never owned a lazy horse, so I cannot speak about them. But I want a thinking horse. I want a horse who talks to me, and even value a horse who will tell me no.
If I want to control where the ATV puts its tires, I'll buy an ATV. My farrier told me that if I wanted a horse who would go anywhere I pointed without question, I bought the wrong horse! "Part Arabian. Part Mustang. Smart AND stubborn." Even Baucher said, "Let him think that he is our master, then he is our slave."
“You’ve allowed him to get away with small-but-frequent behavior infractions that make him feel like he’s won the right to choose." - Julie Goodnight
YGBSM! Heaven help anyone with a horse who thinks he can use his mind! How DARE a horse offer advice, make decisions, or talk back!'
Come on, we are having a lack of communication again, as once more, you are trying to make a blanket ABC statement, of a problem that can have several causes, and that you address accordingly.
If you read my other posts, I have already deviled into it.
No one, including me, wants blind obedience, where a hrose will walk off a cliff, if asked to
What one does want, on any well trained horse, is for that horse to respect and trust your judgement, when you ask him to go somewhere, and not do his own thing, just because he learned he can
If I am riding along, on a trail I don't know, and my horse indicates that the trail might not be safe, I listen to him.
Julie is talking more about the examples I already posted. You know, a bridge that is perfectly safe, but your horse, instead of walking over it, decides to try and evade doing so,, even to the point of falling over the edge of that approach, as he 'argues' with you.
You ask your horse to walk through the middle of a mud puddle, lined on both sides with thick trees and steep narrow banks, You know that trail, have ridden it numerous times on other hroses, thus know that mud hole has a solid bottom, and is not even that deep.
Instead of going through the middle of that mud hole as asked, the horse instead goes sideways,, tries to walk on that narrow bank, slipping and sliding,in danger of falling, while running your leg into the trees on that side.
I agree that the vision should be checked on this horse and since he has been vet checked, lets dispense with the pain issue, as that of course needs a different approach-whether shoes, rest, ect etc. No argument there
This is also not a green horse, never ridden out before, so lets get rid of true fright through lack of exposure, where getting off has application at times, depending on the hrose, training level and your confidence
That leaves a horse who has learned to say no, who has learned balking and spooking gets him out of going where asked
Once You are SURE that is the problem, then either ride the horse through stuff, get that respect, send him to a trainer, or sell him and get one more broke, with more solid experience riding out alone-one you can feel confident on. It is a very well known fact, that a tense rider, waiting for a horse to react, won't be disappointed, esp on a sensitive horse!
The best thing of course, is to have taken the advise of an oz of prevention being worth a pound of cure. Horses that have been ridden with consistent expectations, seldom if ever balk, even when first ridden out alone. They become confirmed balkers, because little things have been left slip
Horses can and do learn to take that proverbial mile, if they have been allowed repeated inches.
It is also why I suggested that a confident and experienced rider should ride this horse out, and see if results are different. At the very least, that rider can determine if the horse truly lacks confidence, or has learned he can refuse, or perhaps a combo is at work (pain and vision problems eliminated as possibilities)
Last edited by Smilie; 07-17-2017 at 01:47 PM.