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post #11 of 20 Old 09-25-2018, 10:54 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you with that advice, the idea to send her away wasn't my idea I was pretty much out voted by family they had never owned a horse with her issue and it irritates the crud out of them. I can say when I first started working with her it took me 2 weeks to be able to touch her for longer then a second before she panicked and took off to a different part of the paddock, and a month to get a halter on her without her panicking halfway through. I have an awesome video of her and my daughter that I took this year it was the first time I let my daughter actually do anything but pet her through the paddock fence I'll try to add the video, but it's like when she's in the paddock she is a completely different horse.
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post #12 of 20 Old 09-25-2018, 11:19 PM Thread Starter
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This is the video I mentioned

https://youtu.be/vax5Ct0iwxE

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You need tons of patience for this to work and many many short sessions. you have to reward micro things.
Love the way you have explained this ziggy, and I think what you have said has shown that it's learning the *principles* that is most important, then you can use whatever 'recipe' fits each horse/situation best.

But the above bit I quoted, I think it's helpful to point out that it is a slow process *initially*, that you have to reward 'micro stuff' initially, but once the horse gets the idea, it makes training everything else so much quicker & more fun for both horse & human IME

Also second Karen Pryor's little book "Don't Shoot The Dog"(Not a dog book specifically) as a great, easy to understand book to grasp the principles. Alexandra Kurland is another good one, who has books & a site particularly geared towards horses.
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Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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I love clicker training and use it for fun things like tricks, but I also bring it into riding dressage. I've also used purely positive reinforcement via the clicker with a rescue mare I work with. She went from running as soon as she saw the halter to running to you. Now she's so excited to work she nickers the entire time through. Clicker training has been a real confidence builder for her because it takes the stress off. With my own mare, I've used clicker training because she shuts down if you use too much pressure. Now she's always seeking to find what I'm asking and is more willing to try new "answers" without fear of reprimand.

I love this blog and it explains in-depth how to start with clicker training:
https://www.thewillingequine.com/sin...To-Get-Started

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Looks like I'm going to be getting some books and a clicker! Thank you @u2ziggy and @loosie for the very helpful advice!
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Sorry @RedDunPaint I didn't see your post until after I posted, I will take a look into that thank you. My mare is kind of like a rescue she was in pretty bad shape when she was given to me.
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That vid shows that while the horse looks a bit... resigned, enduring of following your daughter, she is not looking worried about anything. That's great progress, from what you have told! I imagine if she's so jaded, beinng scratched/rubbed is nnnnnnnot a reward for her either. Does she ennjoy feed from a bucket? Perhaps her previous conditioning has just taught her to be worried about takinnng (got an NN probelm...) food from your hannnd - you could still either toss a carrot or give feed in a bucket as a reward.

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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She won't take anything from a bucket or your hand if she's not on a lead. I think I know why she won't her previous owners would hide the lead rope behind their back and trick her into coming up to them with grain or an apple some kind of treat and as soon as she got close enough they'd snap the lead on her.

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When I was young an uncle (cousin of my grandfather) used to buy around 6 untouched 3 year olds from the New Forest round up sales every year. When they arrived they'd go straight into individual stables inside a barn where they could see each other and other horses. They stayed in there until they could be handled with no problems at all. They were allowed out individually into the centre aisle area to have their stables cleaned out. They soon learnt that they relied on humans for their food and water and it only took on average a week for them to be quiet to handle and lead. They went from there to a small paddock but still came in at night and once they were easy to catch they went into a bigger field. Within less than a year they were all quiet enough to be ridden and handled by children.
I did exactly the same thing when I bought untouched or nervous horses with 100% of the time
It also helps to put a very solid reliable horse in with horses like yours because they take more notice of another horse than they do of humans at this stage
As long as your horse doesn't need to be touched by you and isn't spending enough time close up to people to realise they can be trusted then it has no reason to change
Clicker training only works when you use a positive like a reward to establish the 'feel good factor' to associate with the click - if you can't do that then the 'click' won't work because it isn't some sort of magical word that will make everything OK

Just winging it is not a plan
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I'm glad that you followed in your uncles training methods great for you.

I dont own a big barn with stables or a huge arena/ round pen what you see in that video that I posted is what I have a simple "birthing pen" that was extended to be a holding pen with a run in that is right smack in the middle of a 5 acre pasture.

I've never been in any kind competition type riding, because I never seen it to be all that much fun compared to a nice quiet trail ride.

So I may not have a fancy dancy ranch like other people on here.

I may not have competition experience like other people on here.

I have a simple little pasture with a simple paddock that is what I have, and I try my best to make due with what's out there.

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