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post #1 of 33 Old 08-25-2020, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
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difficulties with my horse

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so my horse that is in my profile pick is giving me some trouble. when I am trying to get him into a lope or canter he fights me on it. He starts to throw head, and if I stay persistent on it he will do a couple strides then the crow hopping and bucking starts. he typically only does this when a saddle is on him with somebody is in it. Or when any body is on him no matter the skill level. if I have him in a round pen with a saddle he will kick out once or twice while loping or canter at the person who is working with him. he will also pin his ears back, not like he is listening to who is on him but really pinning them back every once in a while. another issue he is having is that he has become extremely anxious and nervous when being tied up to a tying post or anything. i have talked to many vets and farriers, and they have no answers for me.
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post #2 of 33 Old 08-25-2020, 09:22 PM
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he typically only does this when a saddle is on him with somebody is in it.

i have talked to many vets and farriers, and they have no answers for me.
What about a saddle fitter? This has the potential to be caused by an ill-fitting saddle.
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post #3 of 33 Old 08-25-2020, 10:05 PM
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Does he do it bareback? If you can tell when he starts to get upset I'd get on bareback and ask him to canter. Let him go into it naturally. Do this after he's had any soreness ruled out. Get on and ride him in an arena. If he starts to act up, it could be something other than the saddle. If it's better, then the saddle is probably the contributor.

I would also check his bit for fit. I've had horses that'd buck if their bit was uncomfortable.
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post #4 of 33 Old 08-25-2020, 10:06 PM
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IT must be a bit of a back pain issue. You talked to vets, but did they examine him?


How long have you owned him? Any recent changes in his life?
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post #5 of 33 Old 08-25-2020, 10:20 PM
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I had something similar happen with my gelding for the first time yesterday during a lesson. We pulled the saddle and my instructor checked him and showed me where she noticed he was "ouchy." She suggested i give it a few days and we will reevaluate for vet or chiro.

He had been doing some odd stomping when i was bridling him, we had dismissed it as flies. I guess i now know when hes trying to tell me something.

So my vote is also back pain. Has he been tested for genetic issues that could cause bucking?
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post #6 of 33 Old 08-25-2020, 10:45 PM
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hi guys,
so my horse that is in my profile pick is giving me some trouble.
Upon opening this thread & seeing the profile pic before reading anything, I thought 'that horse looks uncomfortable & he is 'sickle hocked'. But of course, based on one instant in time when the pic was taken, not to mention a small, not detailed pic - that's only really a wild guess. But...

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He starts to throw head, and if I stay persistent on it he will do a couple strides then the crow hopping and bucking starts. he typically only does this when a saddle is on him with somebody is in it. Or when any body is on him no matter the skill level.
That to me sounds like a pain issue rather than training, esp assuming he has indeed had skilled riders check him out. Cantering under a rider can put more strain on the back than with slower paces, and pressure tests on saddles show the same - horse feels any 'pressure points' about 3 times as much at a canter than walk or trot.

How long has this been going on? How old is the horse, how long have you had him? If it's a new thing, are there any changes you can think of that may have caused it?

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i have talked to many vets and farriers, and they have no answers for me.
What does 'talked to' mean & why many? While farriers typically don't know much about body issues, has the horse been actually checked out by a good vet - meaning a lameness specialist or such? Or a specialised bodyworker, such as a chiropractic vet? Because someone may be a 'good vet', but if not specialised, may also not know a lot about body issues -same as why your human GP will likely refer you to a physio or such, if you have backpain for eg.

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another issue he is having is that he has become extremely anxious and nervous when being tied up to a tying post or anything.
It is normal for a horse to be anxious about being tied up, unless they're well trained/desensitised to be *confident* about it. So, is the horse well trained, seasoned with this? Did he tie well until recently? If so, what has changed? If not, I'd avoid tying him up at all, until he is trained and confident well enough with the process.
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post #7 of 33 Old 08-26-2020, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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I have had multiple vets check him out, and even got him ciropracted. I have had him fitted for a saddle, and still nothing has worked. even riding him bare back he will still crow hop and back when trying to get him in to a lop or canter, but he has no issues with coming into a trot.
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post #8 of 33 Old 08-26-2020, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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I am also riding him with out a bit most of the time. i had my vet check his bit multiple times as well. my vet says that the bit is a good one and everything is in the right spot.
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post #9 of 33 Old 08-26-2020, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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Dakota is typically really good about being tied up by any one. this maybe started about 4 months ago. I have had him looked at by a chiropractic vet, and by another vet that my friend uses. when the chiropractic vet checked him out he said that my horses hips, shoulder, and neck were mostly the only things out on him. even with the adjustment my horse keeps crow hopping and bucking when asked to go above a trot. i had the vet look at him again about two weeks ago, and he said that everything was were it should be. the farriers also looked at his feet, and said that they were good as well. I have also had them check to see if he was lame any where to, and they told me no that he was in good health all around. I had him fitted with a barrel saddle ordered in wide fit. I have also had him saddle fitted abou 3 times just to be sure, and they all say that he is a wide. which what I have been riding in. I have even tried different western saddle types from others who I ride with. so i went and ordered a barrel saddle a couple weeks ago to see if this works out better.
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post #10 of 33 Old 08-26-2020, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
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my horse is also only 8 years old. when i work him in a round pen he will kick out once or twice, but then will do a lope or canter with ease with or without a saddle. i don't know what to do?
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