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post #11 of 14 Old 06-01-2020, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
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I would remove the spurs. That may be why she is flustered. You may not be as clear with them as you think.


As far as a horse getting 'flustered' . . . they might show some of that when you change up their world a bit. If you used to sort of go with her evasions (turning, rotating, going sideways, etc), and you allowed her to do them, even adding your 'cues', then she will expect that.


If you decide to stop that, since it isn't working for YOU, then being firm WILL make her flustered, of course. That's becuase it is departing from her expectation. You would be flustered too, if this happened to you. But, the point is, go THROUGH that, to the other side. You just be very clear about what you want, ignore her emotional reaction (don't add to it) and keep directing her forward. She can have an opinion on this, it's ok, but she does need to follow your directions, promptly.
Thanks, I will try it. I rarely use the spurs, maybe once every few rides - when she ignores the bend ask. My feet are slightly below her stomach so I cannot really use them by accident.
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Agree with what Tiny said. And yes, if you're using spurs & she's 'flustered' about the basics, I'd probably avoid them till she's good otherwise.

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I either let her do those figures (I match my aids to whatever she's doing - that way at lease we are learning something).
Yeah I think adding 'aids' to something a horse is already doing is one good way to associate that 'cue' with the behaviour. BUT if you are actively asking her to go forward & she does something else, as an evasive tactic, it's the Wrong Answer. So I wouldn't change my aid, but keep asking for forward, regardless what she's doing, until she gives me forward.
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A bit of an update: We have been working on our walk and it's coming along nicely. I am not too sure what it is that I am doing but she is much better.

One thing I did change is to work on the rail to start off with (she walks fine on the rail, nice and forward) and only tackle the middle of the arena after going around the rail once or twice. It seems to put her in work mode.

Another thing I am doing is to walk on a completely loose rein in the begging. I only steer using my seat for the first ten minutes. She is actually amazing at it - I can do all sorts of things just with my seat. She is particularly good at turns of forehand and haunches, and leg yield (I didn't even know you could do leg yield without contact).

I am also starting off with a plan rather than just walking aimlessly. So, I will do a turn on haunches at C and leg yield at quarter line...that sort of thing.

Basically, once I focus her on work, she works but starting off at a walk in the middle of the arena wasn't convincing her that we are working. And she doesn't like contact right at the beginning. Works fine if I start trotting straight away but I will work on her accepting contact immediately as soon as I get a solid forward walk from the get go.



Thank you everyone.
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post #14 of 14 Old 07-01-2020, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
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Well, I think Iíve figured it out - itís my fault of course.

I figured it out by watching this video:


You see, what I kept doing is when she did unasked for lateral work - I would stop for a few seconds to regroup. I trained my horse to look for release of pressure at walk by giving her a rest. I donít do any lateral work on the rail so she knew she wouldnít get to stop there. Itís always the rider.

Anyhow, what I think I will do is ask for trot every time her shoulder peeps out even slightly. Iíll keep this thread updated, it might help someone in the future.
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