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post #1 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 06:47 AM Thread Starter
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Horse bolts when being mounted

Hey I am taking on a lease with a horse I have rode before only a couple of times he is a 5 year old of the track he was fine when I rode him but inbetween me taking on the lease the lady had someone interested in buying him but when she went to get on him she has kicked him in the rump getting on and now he bolts when trying to mount dose anyone have any one have any advice?
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 10:07 AM
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lots and lots of desensitizing to things going over his back. Most horses will tolerate something rubbing over their rump - it sounds like it scared him so I would just spend a lot of time putting pressure there. Standing in the stirrup and getting down (not fully mounting) to help him get over that fear
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post #3 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 10:32 AM
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How many times did this lady who owns said horse allow a perspective sale-rider to "boot" the horse upon mounting??
Sorry, sounds fishy to me...


If you are going to take on this project..
You need to go back to basics...
Standing still for mounting and responding to the word WHOA or STAND is where I would start.
5 years old and off the track...
Racehorses are often saddled and rider put astride as the horse is walking off so what you perceive as bolting to the horse is something he did since a baby being ridden possible.
As carshon said, lots of desensitizing work done...
No horse should scoot and run or bolt because something touched their butt, that's dangerous.
Astride or on the ground, horses can react by a fierce tuck of the butt, a hard swish of tail...but to "bolt" from an action of brushing, hitting or kicking the butt with a leg on mounting is serious.
I can't really imagine a rider hitting or kicking a horse that severely when mounting across the rump when your leg is extended to clear the butt and saddle cantle...something doesn't add up on that action and reaction...
Go back to basics is where I would begin the journey....desensitize with many objects and all kinds of things from both sides as horses must be exposed left and right side to truly be desensitized to it the way their brain functions.
Good luck.
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post #4 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys and yeah it's a bit odd .. when she first got this horse on her property I was the first one to ride him and he was completely fine and that is what makes me wonder ..
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post #5 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 11:44 AM
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You should consider backing out of the lease and looking for a horse that isnít going to be a project and a potential danger.
Fixing a horse that youíve bought is one thing, spending time fixing a horse that belongs to someone else is another.

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post #6 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 12:14 PM
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You should consider backing out of the lease and looking for a horse that isnít going to be a project and a potential danger.
Fixing a horse that youíve bought is one thing, spending time fixing a horse that belongs to someone else is another.
I agree with @jaydee . Buying one that has an issue and fixing it is okay if you love the horse or for some reason you find one that has an issue but fixing someone else's horse and one that you are paying to use is completely different. Personally, the whole story sounds fishy. It seems like something has happened to this horse that has created this issue and a foot bumping his rump should not have traumatized him to this extent. I'd be worried that there are more underlying issues. My mare does not always stand stock still while I mount, but she isn't bolting off. Because as it was previously said bolting is a fear response and can be dangerous.
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post #7 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 01:03 PM
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Alarm bells here.
If you were going to purchase this horse I would suggest you get this horse personally evaluated prior to purchase. I would also think that sending him to a trainer would be a good idea. He sounds like this might be an animal in need of an owner with a fair amount of experience.
As for a lease...I would give this a lot of thought.
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My concern here is that I think one of two things is possible:
(1) the horse was bumped with someone's leg, one time, when being mounted, and now freaks out about it. This sounds like a really worried and reactive horse, and I would be concerned about leasing it.
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(2) the owner is not telling you something, and I'd be concerned about leasing FROM HER.

Yes, a horse can definitely be de-sensitized when they have issues about being mounted, and in my experience this isn't generally too had to fix, but this particular scenario seems weird to me.

If you wanted to work on it, then if it were me I'd do it in tiny stages: (1) bring horse to mounting block and give treats, then walk away. Repeat many times. (2) bring horse to mounting block with treats, ask it to stay for a certain amount of time, walk away. Repeat many times. (3) bring horse to mounting block, actually get on the mounting block (don't even think about mounting), feed treats, get off the mounting block, walk away. Repeat many times. Etc. You are breaking things down into tiny little steps that the horse can handle. Any time the horse starts to get worried, slow things down or back up. The thing is, this is best done in lots of little sessions, and while it's not hard it will be time-consuming, e.g. it could be weeks before you have the horse where it stands calmly to be mounted, and that's assuming you can get out there a lot to work on it.

Is it worth leasing this horse if you have to spend that much time before you can ride it? And then what if this just turns out to be a symptom of larger problems, e.g. horse is anxious about a lot of things, and each one you have to work through like this. As others said, it's one thing if this is your horse, but paying to lease a horse like this... I wouldn't.
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post #9 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 01:54 PM
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Hey I am taking on a lease with a horse I have rode before only a couple of times he is a 5 year old of the track he was fine when I rode him but inbetween me taking on the lease the lady had someone interested in buying him but when she went to get on him she has kicked him in the rump getting on and now he bolts when trying to mount dose anyone have any one have any advice?


Thanks guys and yeah it's a bit odd .. when she first got this horse on her property I was the first one to ride him and he was completely fine and that is what makes me wonder ..

The horse is only 5 years old. That's a baby! And babies do weird things like this if they do not have a good foundation and good ground work training. As a general rule of thumb, off the track horses do NOT have a good foundation or good ground work training.



If you have multiple options for a lease horse, I would not recommend picking this one. If you do not already know how to deal with a bolting horse, it is not wise to try to learn on your own without the direction of a trainer. Bolting is very dangerous.



My advice would be to pass on this horse, and find something more suitable for your skill level to lease.
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post #10 of 11 Old 10-15-2019, 03:51 PM
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Find another lease. You dodged a bullet.
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