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post #1 of 33 Old 04-25-2019, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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Lunging youngster

Just looking for some advice relating to my beautiful youngster.
Lovely Theo is learning to lunge and he has been doing spectacularly however recently, very very recently he has decided that going to the left is not a game he wants to play and will turn his head and tuck and pull you around like a rag doll.

I have tried a few methods, making him turn in the direction hes going until I ask him to stop, giving him a good whack on the bum, going back to the basics, Loads of praise when he does go forward however when he does go forward and I release and praise he tucks his head and pulls again. Tried a shorter lead, a lunge whip etc
Today I got one good lunge circle and I left it at that, I will not be lunging him again until I see my trainer and will move onto something else.
I do work with a trainer who does have a roundyard so that is my next step but just wondering if anyone has any other ideas?

Things to note:
Theo is 21 months old - does not get lunged often however we were hoping to enter him in some lungeline classes at a show
We use a rope halter
he is NOT bitted yet
We don't have a roundyard
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I was thinking the roundpen was maybe the best solution. If you get him going good there, where he canít pull you around or do anything like that, then maybe attaching the lunge line in the roundpen would make him more solid to the idea.

Zeus was doing the same type of thing, although he flexes nice and everything, he had learned to pull someone around before we bought him, and going into the lunging situation loping was bringing it back out in him. He wouldnít do it trotting, but as soon as you tried to break him into the lope. The roundpen fixed the issue.

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I was thinking the roundpen was maybe the best solution. If you get him going good there, where he can’t pull you around or do anything like that, then maybe attaching the lunge line in the roundpen would make him more solid to the idea.

Zeus was doing the same type of thing, although he flexes nice and everything, he had learned to pull someone around before we bought him, and going into the lunging situation loping was bringing it back out in him. He wouldn’t do it trotting, but as soon as you tried to break him into the lope. The roundpen fixed the issue.
Ours is the opposite only does it in the trot as he’s not up to cantering yet. I had a feeling the roundyard might be the only solution but since we don’t have one the property we might find another way.
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I donít remember having the issue at the trot, but maybe I just have forgotten. I think Zeus struggled learning to carry himself in the circle at a faster gate, which brought on the issues. Once he learned he could he was great. I wish I knew of a method that didnít require the roundpen to help you out. We didnít have one either, but since I couldnít get him lunging right we put one up. I tried a couple different things before, but I couldnít solve it outside. Hopefully someone has a good plan.

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I don’t remember having the issue at the trot, but maybe I just have forgotten. I think Zeus struggled learning to carry himself in the circle at a faster gate, which brought on the issues. Once he learned he could he was great. I wish I knew of a method that didn’t require the roundpen to help you out. We didn’t have one either, but since I couldn’t get him lunging right we put one up. I tried a couple different things before, but I couldn’t solve it outside. Hopefully someone has a good plan.
Tbh it could be entirely unrelated, could be added pressure of being asked. I’m not sure but it’s only to the left
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Tbh it could be entirely unrelated, could be added pressure of being asked. Iím not sure but itís only to the left
Oh, Iím sure it could be unrelated. Zeus struggled both directions, but he is a pretty equal horse on each side. I have seen a lot who seem to struggle more one way than another. I think thereís something to the whole ďright handedĒ idea.

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To clarify, when he goes left is he stopping, bucking, shaking his head? I'm not sure what playing means for him. When you say he is turning his head and tucking, is he turning his nose to the right, away from you and trying to go outside the circle, or is he trying to go inside the circle to the left? Is he trying to change directions?

The lunge line does give you a bit of leverage, so if he's trying to pull away you can give him a jerk on the line to get him pointed back to where you want to go. You might consider using a whip behind him as an arm extension just to touch his rump if he stops and encourage him forward.
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I'm a really visual person.. you wouldn't be able to get video of what he's doing by chance could you?

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To clarify, when he goes left is he stopping, bucking, shaking his head? I'm not sure what playing means for him. When you say he is turning his head and tucking, is he turning his nose to the right, away from you and trying to go outside the circle, or is he trying to go inside the circle to the left? Is he trying to change directions?

The lunge line does give you a bit of leverage, so if he's trying to pull away you can give him a jerk on the line to get him pointed back to where you want to go. You might consider using a whip behind him as an arm extension just to touch his rump if he stops and encourage him forward.
So no their is no bucking or carrying on simply going to the left on the circle he violently tucks his head around to the right and pulls extremely hard and uses his whole body weight.

Like I said above we have tried the smack on the bum and encouraging him forward, the forward almost makes it worse.
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That is just exactly what Zeus was doing. I know he had figured out how to pull away before we got him. He was quite good at it. I ended up having to dally off to one of my my older horses to break him from doing it being led. He drug me around before I caught someone else. Lol. Funny now, not at the time... It was something I thought he was completely over until we started lunging asking for the lope. I had never seen that trick before. It sure is a difficult one.

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