Making progress, but still very naughty "at liberty" - Page 2 - The Horse Forum
 6Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 14 Old 11-23-2014, 10:59 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: New England
Posts: 12,001
• Horses: 3
Agree he's not ready for soft yet. Just look at your mare.

I would work him, loose, in a "round pen" (small area) and work on yielding, while loose. Do carry a lunge whip with you when you work with him.

Thoughts for "during the moment"...sometimes there's not much to do. Now if he was in a safe area and I was prepared with my "weapon" I would step into his space and "ask for it" and make him more and yield to me (hindquarters) but again sometimes there's not much you can do unfortunately.

Maybe someone else has ideas.

The other day the recently ex-stallion and grade a turd got out on me (was minorly distracted by an adjacent horse walking through the fence and he shoved the gate open and ran out...grr). He was in a large stall type section and I decided the other horse could wait and I had to get him. I could prevent him from leaving that section but if I moved he could run past me. I very carefully walked towards him and the little turd swung his butt at me. I would of shooed him but didn't want him to get past me... Eventually I just caught him and scolded him (he knew exactly what the issue was) and made a mentally note not to let it happen. Not much I could do from a "training opportunity" standpoint.

I would not be scolding after with a horse that age, well maybe immediately. It sounds like he's just a spoiled teenager which is unfortunately all that common (in all species!). It sounds like you're doing everything right and just need to be consistent and wait until it clicks. Do be quiet but I wouldn't be working on "softness" just yet.
Yogiwick is offline  
post #12 of 14 Old 11-24-2014, 07:28 AM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 1,537
• Horses: 1
Alright, so what I have taken away from the last two posts is that I am limited in what I can do in a repeat situation like the one I had yesterday, aside from protecting myself and the horse, and following catch protocols. Thanks, yogiwick, for sharing your experience!

And TxHorseman confirming that deliberate respect work will (should!) carry over to the other situations in time. I never make training sessions very long, even when specific....but I do not think I am doing them often enough, it is going to be a long winter so I need to be more frequent than once a week or every two weeks, I think.

Now if I could just teach him to fill the holes he left in my lawn.....
Yogiwick likes this.
greenhaven is offline  
post #13 of 14 Old 11-24-2014, 10:55 AM
Showing
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: New England
Posts: 12,001
• Horses: 3
Yeah I think if you CAN do something training wise to do it, but as much as we wish otherwise it's not always possible due to safety of horse and handler.

I agree he just needs consistency, you haven't had him that long and he's young. Agree that short more frequent sessions will be good if possible. If possible I'd make a point of doing something "respect" based at least 2x/week and of course maintaining that in the regular day to day schedule.

I think the goal right now should be for him to KNOW without a doubt that turning his bum and stuff are NOT something to even consider. First he has to learn right from wrong and then just keep up the consistency and work on what he should do. The horse that got out on my was very deliberately showing me the middle finger so to speak. I'm not convinced your guy was, at least not in the same context. (I've also seen horses turn simply to block you since they know you can grab them if you get to their head, not that it makes it OK and is even more frustrating but there are different reasons)
greenhaven likes this.
Yogiwick is offline  
post #14 of 14 Old 11-24-2014, 11:10 AM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 1,537
• Horses: 1
Thanks! If I had had a lunge whip in my hand I would have employed it vigorously, lol! As it is I guess we gotta use what we got.

To be fair, the "stand" practice I mentioned was impromptu, as I was trying to gey video clips of his stride.....by myself. No, I don't know what I was thinking. So it was entirely my fault that he got away. He had enough fun that I suspect he will try it again. I will be ready, next time. ;)
Yogiwick likes this.
greenhaven is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
16.5" "The Liberty" DK MonoFlap Jumping Saddle - CUSTOM TO FIT ANY HORSE! EhLysa Tack and Equipment Classifieds 0 11-01-2008 07:47 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome