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post #11 of 18 Old 01-02-2018, 08:14 PM Thread Starter
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Are any of those alpacas halter broke? If so, have someone lead one of them, in the arena, door closed, and let your horse follow it.
Horses get a lot of confidence, if their object of concern, seems to yield to them
First time I took Charlie to one of the local shows, there were driving classes, and mini horses. That combo put the fear of God into her, so she was ready to 'leave the country, as I was trying to warm her up outside, and where driving hroses would come up behind her.
I then asked one lady, if I could just follow behind her cart. It helped, as Charlie saw herself as moving that object of concern
When I had my reining mare down at Spruce Meadows, for demos, during the Masters, I had to ride in the evening parade, that went through the International ring. I was placed right behind a woman leading a lama.
The woman told me'go ahead and let your hrose have a sniff', when my mare seemed a bit concerned.
I gave San Stone a loose rein, and reeled her in, just in time, as she was going to take a hunk out of that beast!
How about a stall? Do you have good solid stalls at those facilities, and can you put the alpaca in a stall across from your mare?
No, flooding might not be the answer, as in throwing them in together, but at the same time, you are allowing her just to fuel her own irrational fear and doing nothing, far as solidifying any trust in you and your judgement.
If you take her near those alpacas, you must first be sure that you will remain calm, give her that leadership security, and also keep control of her, otherwise, you are obtaining 'negative training, which is worse then no training, far as accepting those beasts
We considered that as well. We do have access to secure stalls, but we didn't know how well it would work. She had an injury to her leg over a year ago that caused her to be stalled for 3 months straight. The vet didn't want her to walked much, so we were only allowed to bring her out to clean her stall or to give her a 15 minute period of grazing outside. From being stuck inside a stall for long, she went stir crazy. She got so anxious, pacing and pounding at the door to leave. Ever since then she doesn't like stalls much. We can tack her up in a stall, but for an extended period of time or overnight she doesn't like.
So we thought combining something she doesn't like, alpacas, with something else she doesn't like, being stalled, wouldn't really produce positive results. But who knows, it might be worth a try, since everything else has failed.
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post #12 of 18 Old 01-02-2018, 08:16 PM Thread Starter
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I had a polo pony that was very afraid of llamas. There was a herd right across the fence from the parking of trailers for the Sunday matches. It had to be resolved as he was going to hurt himself or people or other horses. If he had continued to act up he would have been banned in order to avoid injury to him or anyone or other horse.

What I did was work him quite hard, to the point of being tired, and only let him rest very close to the llamas.

Sounds simple, but he was already very fit. It took hours. The first couple rests, he was recovered within minutes and back to panicking about those animals. Off we went again. I tired and called in reinforcements, meaning I letting others trot him for miles until he was tired, and I'd offer rest again.

Finally late afternoon he stood for 40 minutes and barely looked at them. A couple easy walks for the horse and rest and cold hosing legs and a bit to drink and eat at the llamas fenceline.

Many people mistake a horse being warmed up for being tired. I am not talking relaxed and over any hi-jinx or distractions. I am talking about head dropped, foot dragging tired.

It's been four years now and although he raises his head and looks their way, he does not act on fear. I reinforce that proximity to llamas is good by doing a final rub down after the game as close to the llamas as possible.
This is a good idea, something I haven't thought of yet. Will be trying it soon, thank you!
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post #13 of 18 Old 01-02-2018, 10:31 PM
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For us it was emus. When it was realized there was no money in them people were turning them loose. They in turn tore out fence, invaded our pastures and hid in the tree lines and brush jumping out to scare the horses. It took several strands of high tensile wire and extra grounding but after a few encounters with a super hot fence they moved on. I'd say tiring them out is your best option. That's what finally got through to ours. They'd run themselves until they would just about drop but the birds were still there.
Intending to scare horses is far more credit than I would give any emu. A chicken is a genius compared to an emu.

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post #14 of 18 Old 01-02-2018, 10:36 PM
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Really like the idea of someone leading an alpaca and her following it. I had a similar experience to Foxhunter with cows. Don't know why but Brooke was terrified of them, and nothing helped except the opportunity to boss some calves around. Following has also helped with tractors, donkeys, those giant horse balls, a cowhide, and many another thing that threw her at first.

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Yes, that leading and following works great, BUT whether you do it riding or walking, you first must make sure that you can keep control of your horse, which has not been the case in the past, going by original posts

We don't have cattle ourselves, so first time many of my horses encountered them , was riding down the road or riding in grazing leases.
Esp, fun, in the spring on a green hrose, when those newly turned out heifers come bucking and leaping up to the fence!.
I always made my horse face them, and with some body control, stand there.Heifers would stop at the fence and stare,and i could then, with body control on my horse, ask the horse to actually move towards those heifers, and with a little arm waving from me, get those heifers to back from the fence some.
That gave my horse great courage, seeing he could move those beasts, tot he point the horse would see them as harmless, and then relax, even graze in the ditch right beside those heifers,while just keeping an eye on them
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If you think alpacas are difficult, try to put a dead bear or cougar on a pack horse. To say they don't like it is a huge understatement. They hate it! A little Vicks vapor rub on the nose goes a long way. They can't smell anything over it. I've never had a lot of problems with my horses but I've answered the phone to "Can you come help me find my horse?"

He had put dead elk on a horse and the thing exploded. Took off running and bucking into the wilderness. It got dark, so he went home and called me. We spent two days looking for the horse. When we found him, he was off in an old burn with pixy-stick trees everywhere. How the horse got there without breaking a leg, I'll never know. The elk was gone but the pack saddle was still on him.
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Nothing like trying to pack out an elk, on a horse that has never packed meat before!
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But Avna their timing was perfect. While I agree it probably wasn't intentional it sure looked that way. They more than likely were just curious about what was coming up to the fence. That and they get scared mindless when coyotes and dog would come through the brush after them. I'm just glad they're gone. There was only one sane one in the bunch it seemed and that one liked to play with swings and when not at the neighbors was just hanging out near where the horses were fed.
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