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post #1 of 7 Old 01-07-2016, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
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My mare has recently gotten aggressive..

i bought this beautiful 10 yr old QH paint mare a few months ago. They people I got her from had gotten her when she was a baby. They said they never really trained her they just threw a saddle on her and she's been a great trail horse. Well when I got her here it took a little bit to get her straight I had to buy her a new hackmore cause the one they sent with her didn't fit her right, she has a very Small head. We had many wonderful rides going out on her own was no problem. She was amazing !!! Then we had some family health issues come up and I was unable to fool with her except to feed. Now she is pinning her ears back biting at me whenever I attempt to mount her. Today she went nuts when I tried to put her saddle pad on. She finally let me do it but I had to shout and stomp at her and let her know I wasn't putting up with her crap. I love this horse and I don't wanna give up on her. I owned horses my whole life but I've never had one like this. Please somebody help me!!!
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post #2 of 7 Old 01-07-2016, 10:31 AM
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Sounds like she was content to go with the flow when things were nice and easy, then she had some time off and now that she's being asked to work again, she's throwing a temper tantrum and saying "I don't wanna! YOU can't make me!!"

This mare needs a "come to Jesus meeting" and soon. She needs to know that YOU are boss mare and that what you say goes. She also needs some formal training. I think the previous owners (and subsequently, you) were getting by okay because what they wanted to do happened to coincide with what she didn't object to. Now that those two things no longer align, she is showing her displeasure at being asked to do what she doesn't want to do.

Get a trainer to work with her and with you.

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"never really trained her, just threw a saddle on her', has me wondering as to how broke this horse ever was, and what kind of holes are there in her training.
Maybe she was a very forgiving horse, allowing herself to be ridden, when she was not really broke, and now, like many green horses, is testing the rider
Of course, there is always the possible apin issue dis claimer, to be ruled out, like cystic ovaries, but very likely she is in reality , quite a green horse that has decided she likes not working
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post #4 of 7 Old 01-07-2016, 11:42 AM
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Ulcers also make horses act out. After 10 years in one place she could very well be stressed.
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post #5 of 7 Old 01-07-2016, 12:30 PM
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Check her for ulcers or other pain before thinking it's a training problem. As Churumbeque said, if she's been in one home for most of her life, it was likely stressful for her to move, even if she behaved herself and that is a recipe for ulcers. My mare has gotten ulcers the last two times I've moved barns and it takes a while for her to really show signs she's uncomfortable.

Here's a good video about how to test at home for them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr05hMmLCY4

I'd recommend testing out in a pasture or somewhere she doesn't associate with work. If it really is pain she'll let you know, if it does turn out to be a behavioral thing, she may act out if she thinks she's being ridden.

When a horse goes from good (even if untrained) to suddenly aggressive, it's usually pain. Bad behavior from a horse who is testing generally builds up over time.
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post #6 of 7 Old 01-07-2016, 12:44 PM
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Ruling out health issues or saddle fit etc.
She was in a home for many years, knew her place in the social structure there and was comfortable with it. She came to you and in the beginning you rode her and she was ok with it, but she is trying to figure out where she stands in this new home (above or below you) then she was off work for a while and now she is trying to assert herself as one spot above you on the social scale.
You will have to let her know that you are the one in charge not her. You might need some help from a coach or a trainer if this is too much for you to handle and be successful, better to do it right in the beginning than for you to try and not succeed.
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I don't buy that degree of acting up, due to ulcers, just putting a saddle pad on.
Yes, it is politically correct, and hence I alway do it, far as putting in 'the rule out all pain disclaimer'
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which is understood to cover both tack fit and a physical condition
I also see as pain a reason always jumped on first, making all our horses today sound like some mis bred animals so prone to all kinds of stuff, hardly even worked
This is not meant to give the impression that I think one should not rule out a pain issue, just that I see it as too often used as a cop out, for any horse mis behavior, when in reality, that horse needs more miles and wet saddle blankets, things our horses today often do not get enough of.
Also, a respectful horse, even in pain, does not show that degree of disrespect, but a good horseman will recognize when that horse is not quite himself-short striding, ect
Horses will also test new riders. Perhaps this horse was ridden more regularly in his old place, had more black and white boundaries
Very often one hears of a horse, sent out to a trainer, to have a month or so put on him. At first, when that horse comes home, he rides fine for his owner. Then, that owner does not put the regular time on that horse, who is still basically green, thus needs months of regular good riding to become 'solid', plus that owner lets little things slip, that the trainer never did. Horses can become un trained, as well as trained
All at once, that owner has a different horse then the one that came home from that trainer!
Get her checked out
If all is fine, get a trainer to assess as to how broke this horse really is

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