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post #1 of 5 Old 04-10-2014, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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Stubborn pony help

I have a 6 year old mare who I got for free. I had no idea she was broke to ride until the day I went to get her. I rode her at the mans house and the only bridle he used was a bit-less bridle. She rode nice, didn't act up and was a bit pushy at sometimes. Since I've gotten her I've switched off from ground work to riding her. When doing ground work (lunging, driving) she listens perfectly, I use an English bridle and sometimes a western bridle (she responds better to the English bridle) but as soon as I get on her back she acts like she lost her brains. As soon as she feels me put pressure to turn her she tries to go the other way and speeds up. Her neck is so strong it's hard to keep her in control. I do, but literally everytime I ride her she acts up, tries running me into other horses and objects. She also refuses to move forward without a crop. Do I need more ground work? Or do I need a bit-less bridle since she was trained with one? An I doing something wrong with her training? Or is she just really hard headed?
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Some horses are naturally hardheaded but groundwork is always a good place to start. Do you do much hands-on stuff such as encouraging her to bend from the ground, moving off of direct pressure from your fingertips or backing up until she is soft and responsive?
It's always a good idea to take some time before even mounting up to run through all these exercises or "pre-flight checks" to see if she's even going to respond properly to pressure at all.
Also, as for the bridle, if she went well in a bitless, put her back in one or atleast try her out in one now that you have her at your place.

"If a horse fails to do something that is because he was not trained to do it. If a horse fails to do something properly that is because he was not trained properly."
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Have you had her teeth checked? If her mouth is sore that may explain some of her behavior. When you say western and english bridles what type of bits are you using? When you say pressure are you referring to leg pressure or rein pressure? Are you lunging and driving her with a bit, and how is she with the bit when your not riding her? Sorry for all the questions just looking for clarification.

Horses do not have hard mouths they have stiff bodies, what I am reading is she has a stiff body. I would spend more time on the ground doing lots of lateral bending and getting control of her head, neck, shoulders, rib cage and hind end. I would not let "hard headed" get stuck in your mind, change your language to holes in her training, and go about finding the holes to help her get soft. If your unsure how to help her then find a trainer to work with both of you and help you. An extra set of eyes on the ground a lot of times gives valuable insight as to how to go about fixing things.
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post #4 of 5 Old 04-11-2014, 07:08 AM Thread Starter
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Some horses are naturally hardheaded but groundwork is always a good place to start. Do you do much hands-on stuff such as encouraging her to bend from the ground, moving off of direct pressure from your fingertips or backing up until she is soft and responsive?
It's always a good idea to take some time before even mounting up to run through all these exercises or "pre-flight checks" to see if she's even going to respond properly to pressure at all.
Also, as for the bridle, if she went well in a bitless, put her back in one or atleast try her out in one now that you have her at your place.
She will let me do anything I want while I'm on the ground, I don't need to barley touch her as soon as my fingers start to move to an area she feels and knows to move to the side, back up, turn her neck, pick up her feet and things like that. And thank you I will need to buy one soon! She does have a lack of respect for my personal space, could that be one of the problems?
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post #5 of 5 Old 04-11-2014, 10:01 AM
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Ok-need to remember-she is only 6 years old,& she was free-there's usually a reason for that. Take your time w/her,& don't expect a trail-wise, bomb-proof mare at this point-that can take years to achieve. Build up her foundation one brick at a time, & you could have a great riding companion in the end.
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