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post #1 of 10 Old 05-03-2016, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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Thoughts on tie rings?

So I have a yearling filly who has decided she likes to pull back. I know it's not out of fear, but I'm not sure why she is. She ties well the other 95% of the time. I have been working with her and it's getting better but I'm curious about tie rings. I feel like they could teach a horse it's okay to pull back, because when the horse pulls back the pressure is released. (?) Now keep in mind I've never used one, so I don't know if they actually work or not.

I'm looking for opinions on them, and some training suggestions to help her stop pulling back. She knows to come back in to relieve the pressure and she always does. I'm just looking for some insight!

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Some people like tie rings, but I am not a fan of them
I believe in teaching a horse to give to pressure , 100% ,leading first, thus allowing that horse to be tied up solid, preparing that horse for the future, when he might be tied up over night on trail rides, to a trailer at a show, ect
If a horse tends to pull back, that horse gets tied with a body rope, until he can be trusted not to pull back. Usually only takes once or twice.
The body rope prevents all the strain from being put just on the neck muscles, should a horse pull back, plus it has them come ahead pretty quickly, once they feel it tighten on their grith.
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The idea is there isn't anything to brace against, so they won't get the reward of getting free should they break a lead or halter.

My coaches mare was nasty and after just a couple times on the ring doesn't set back nearly as much or violent. She will think about it then step back up on her own.

Edit to add she has another mare though that it didn't work for and they had to play with other methods. So each horse will react different. The first mare is extremely broke but more of a flight where as the second mare is fight.

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There are at least two tie rings designed to provide resistance to tell a horse to stop pulling but give in panic situations. At least one is designed so you can adjust how much pull is necessary before the rope "gives".

The results achieved using any device depend on how the device is used and the particular horse.

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Great information, thanks so much! I think one thing that will make a difference in her tendency to pull back is just having more tying sessions. Am I right in that assumption?

Smilie if I may ask, how do you use a body rope?

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We love our "The Clip" we have a mare that pulls back about once a year. We never know why or see it coming. This has not stopped her pulling back but it has made her pull back less severely. As others have said all horses are different. My friend has a mare that tried to bolt out of the trailer and as soon as her divider is even touched she is pulling back and ready to bolt. A tie ring has made the world of difference for her. She seems to feel less confined. **** note this mare loads and rides like a dream - it is only after the ride that she bolts - they have tried different trailers, different positions in the trailer, letting her ride backwards, leaving a window down, stock trailer enclosed trailer. So it is still a work in progress.\
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Advice that was given to me by Cherie is to tie a horse that pulls back higher than his wither, to a strong tree limb for example. I have yet to try it myself (lack of strong tall trees here in desert), but to me the logic would be that the horse cannot get any real leverage to pull back.

I've never used tie rings, but if the theory is that the horse doesn't get the satisfaction of breaking free by halter or lead, what happens if the rope comes completely out of the tie ring? Isn't the point for the horse that he wants to get free of being tied, so to him does it really matter whether its through breaking the halter or lead or a loose rope?

My client has two TBs that pull back and nowhere to safely teach them to tie. I can never tie them solid. They have several times pulled the round pen apart. I could see using a tie ring with these horses in this situation, until they learned to tie safely and properly.

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I taught my gelding (who had never tied before) to tie using a Blocker tie ring. He now ties solid to anything and never pulls back (unless he's being dumb and drops his head and gets the rope over his poll).

I started out running the lead the the Blocker and looping the remaining rope around the hitching rail a couple of times so there was some resistance of he decided to try pulling back.

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For me, anyway, a tie ring is not practical, as I have no intention of packing one along, where ever I go, although I can see comfort level for some people, not willing to go for the 'cure', so am in n o way saying not to use it, if it works for your circumstances

The body rope, is actually illustrated in a veterinary book, on raising young horses, as it is a much safer way of teaching a horse to accept being tied solid, then just tying them to a 'patience' tree , just using a halter, thus putting all that strain on the neck muscles, should a horse pull back
I never raised a halter puller, but did buy one, off the track.
I never had anyone to hold weanlings for me, or even yearlings, when I trimmed their feet, thus learning to stand, without trying to pull back, was very important.
Let just make sure to state, that before you ever tie any horse solid, he should be 100% on giving to pressure, when led, ect.
You use a soft cotton rope, with anon slip knot on one end. You place that rope behind the front legs, loop in the middle of belly. You then run that long end of the rope , through that loop, up between front legs and over the bottom web of a good double stitched nylon halter, with good hardware, and tie the horse with a quick release knot
Make sure that you tie in a safe place, and stand out of the way, as a horse will come forward fast, the first time he feels that rope tighten around his girth.
Tied correctly, that rope releases the minute the horse comes forward.
Most horses can't even be encouraged to try it a second time
Once they accept being tied, no longer offer to sit back, I just tie them with an ordinary nylon halter and lead shank
Yes, and horses get better, m ore accepting, standing tied, if you make it part of their regular training. All our horses, when started under saddle, spent time being tied up in the barn, alone. Even now, I often will leave a horse tied there, and it just becomes routine and no big deal.
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Smilie, just because you teach to tie with a tie ring doesn't mean you have to use on from then on. I haven't used a tie ring in YEARS. Not since the first couple months of teaching my gelding to tie. Now we can hard tie to anything and he doesn't set back.
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