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post #21 of 26 Old 04-26-2016, 07:07 PM
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See, I don't understand this. Why would I care about which feet are being placed where rather than allowing those feet to go the proper direction? WHY would I want to confuse a horse with one foot, two feet, three feet, four feet? For some reason, Dr. Seuss comes to mind. To me, this is needless piddling. If I want him to walk in, I want him to walk in…not hesitate or worry about which foot I want where. ie. TODAY we're only putting one foot on, now two, etc. Why not just allow them walk in when you ask them too. Isn't that what you really want? What am I missing?
Did you read my link? If not, do that first. Might explain things better. I think you are just missing the "big picture" and the actual purpose behind one foot in, one foot out.

Yes, your ultimate goal is to get the horse onto the trailer. But I've seen it happen frequently where horses (and owners) don't know what to do once you get the horse all the way in the trailer. Or don't understand why they have problems once the horse is loaded.Or why the horse walked right on the trailer yesterday but now today they don't.

If you've not done your homework, you are going to run into issues like the ones we've been talking about (horse pulls back in the trailer, panics when the butt bar is put on, backs out before you can close the dividier, refusing to back out, etc etc).

The concept is MORE than just one foot in one foot out. You are teaching the horse BODY CONTROL. That means I can move their shoulders wherever and whenever I want. I can move the ribcage. Hindquarters. Etc. If I have control over each foot and where each foot is going, I can do anything with my horse; including load them onto a trailer. I have their attention and their respect when I can control each foot, and each body part.

It's that body control that you are seeking for fixing ground work problems, which is what trailer loading is. When you go through all those steps to have that good of control of your horse on the ground, trailer loading becomes a piece of cake.

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post #22 of 26 Old 04-26-2016, 07:54 PM
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bottom line, horses do not need to be taught to load.
If they are solid on leading, they will load. We raised horses for many years, and I never taught those horses to load into a trailer. They were solid on leading, not questioning as to where they would or would not lead. They were taught to accept being tied solid
Those horses were loaded for the first time, often when they were sold, went to their first show or trail ride, ect. All loaded, because they led.
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Just for an example of point being discussed.
Yesterday, I took Charlie to the local indoor arena that I ride at sometimes.
While there, I observed a mother and her two daughters trying to load a horse.I offered to help, but they said they were fine
That horse would put front feet in, then back out. This occurred over and over again. After that horse backed out, they would pet her.
I had to bite my tongue. What were they rewarding?
I don't work a horse around at trailer, feed him treats, teach him to load, as , after all, he does know how to walk and lead!
If I do need to get after that horse-it is away from that trailer, working on the true problem-not leading without question
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bottom line, horses do not need to be taught to load. If they are solid on leading, they will load.
Smilie, the funny thing about this is you sound exactly like Clinton Anderson, who I have gathered from your other posts is not exactly your soul mate. Every time I've seen Clinton Anderson, and in several of his video materials, he says you don't have a trailer loading problem, or a foot handling problem, or a bucking or rearing problem. You have a horse that isn't broke, and if you take care of that the issue you're so worried about will go away.

I can't remember if you have a sticky out there on teaching a horse to lead. I think it would be a helpful resource. I know it would have value to me.
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post #25 of 26 Old 04-27-2016, 01:15 AM
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that may be true, that you if your horse leads well, they will GO INTO the trailer.

however, they may not STAY in the trailer. that can be a different issue.

of course, coming back down to having the hrose super confident in where you put him is the crux, but you may deal with it slightly difrferent.

the lease horse I have will go in without issue. but, as soon as he senses you starting to close the divider, he will want to bust out. he does not feel ok about being closed in. he'll back out, and lead back in easily, but want to back out as soon as things get tight.
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Just wanted to thank everyone who replied to my question. I want to let everyone know that after working with him daily for at least a week; he now walks on BY HIMSELF ( with just a little tap from behind). I put the but bar up and then hook him up. We have gone on a trip where he got off and on the trailer 3 times and he was perfect. I can tell you that I cried the first time he went on and stayed on ! I also attribute success to my headphones. I listened to music while working with him, and this kept me calm, instead of getting frustrated.
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