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post #1 of 10 Old 12-18-2012, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
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Trying to lunge

Right, I have a yung horse and I have tried to start lunging him but he is not scared of anything when I try and move him on he kicks out and just stands there I have tried bags on the lunge whip and he just want to see what it is and I don't know what to do because he can be quick handy with his back legs HELP!!!!!
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post #2 of 10 Old 12-18-2012, 05:32 PM
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Way before you start trying to lunge him you need to teach him respect. Lots of it!

A horse that kicks out at you has no respect for you at all and, waving a polythene bag at him is not going to teach him manners either.
Get a proper lunge whip and learn how to use it hard across his back legs if he so much as thinks about kicking.

Better still, get a trainer to teach him.
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I just recently got rid of a horse that did this, she would turn her butt into me and kick out. work the horse hard, and hit his legs if this does not help take her to a trainer. It will only get you hurt if you continue. My experience left me with a big bruise and almost got kicked in the face.
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What ground work have you done already? Whoa should already be covered. As well as respecting your space. Anytime a horse turns its rump to you be immediately reprimanded. And severely. I got gut kicked once, never allowed it again! I wouldn't try lounging till you have those two things solid. Just my two cents.
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Right, I have a yung horse and I have tried to start lunging him but he is not scared of anything when I try and move him on he kicks out and just stands there I have tried bags on the lunge whip and he just want to see what it is and I don't know what to do because he can be quick handy with his back legs HELP!!!!!
When you say "young", how old do you mean?

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post #6 of 10 Old 12-18-2012, 07:45 PM
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I think you meant that he was kicking out at the bag on the whip, not you, correct?

You need to make the horse THINK about moving out onto the circle, then go forward. IF you keep applying pressure to his hind end, he will turn and look at this item, thus keep turning his face to you and his thought will not be about moving out and forward.

put the pressure on his face, to make him move away from it. this will move his head and face outward. And, put some pullon the leadline out in the direction you are going to want him to travel. Do these things and watch his ear and eye. When his ear and eye go out that way, then he is thinking about moving that direction. you have his mind going out that way, instead of in AT the rustling whip/bag or whatever you use to put drive on him.

Once he is looking out that way, a wee bit more pressure and a "cluck" will likely have him move out onto the circle. Once he does this, you can move and apply the pressure to move forward at his midline, roughly wehre your leg would put pressure on. Not too far back or he will move his butt away from it and turn to face this "thing. focus on his girth area to drive him on. Once he goes forward better, you can move the drive back a bit , but if he moves his butt outward, you make him take his front end away by focussing on his inside nostril and pushing that out and away from you.
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Keep your whip low and pointed behind you. Hold the lead hand shoulder height and point the way you want him to go. Click or kiss to him and barely move the whip by just jiggling it. As soon as he begins to move forward keep the whip still. If he stops, kiss and jiggle the whip. You are teaching him to lunge, it's not automatic that he knows how to do it. When he will walk a few circles and stops when you say whoa. Rub his forehead then put him away. That is a big reward. Next time work on the other direction. Don't ask him to trot until he is really solid at the walk and stopping when you ask. And you are asking, no demanding.



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great ideas, as I am about to start my 3 yo pony on lounging and i like the last 2 tips alot. Also, patience is a good thing. Sometimes I loose mine and have to stop myself and recollect myself and try again for what I am asking. I too will give these tips a try.
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By using the verbal cues when you are doing in hand ground work or anytime you are asking for a walk, stop trot outside of the area you lounge is always good. Teaching them in hand and then using them when lounging made it very easy for me to teach my youngster. Also when beginning to lounge we did very short sessions with one goal in mind and when he got it we stopped, gradually increasing the time and the goals. Also we used a lounge line when first starting as well and then graduated to free lounging in the round pen. I don't use the round pen to just run him in circles, I use it as a space to establish respect and communication. If the horse is kicking out have a lounge whip and use it, and I would recommend having him on a lounge line, but even a couple of sessions with a good trainer could help. Good luck :0)
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I'm not sure from what I read if the horse is kicking out at you or the whip/plastic bag or just plain kicking out 'I'm not moving so stuff you' attitude
It all boils down to disrespect though and the end result - you getting hurt - could be the same
I'm for getting the help of a trainer who will work with you and the horse
I'm going to add (and probably incurr the wrath of some people) but although I dont want my horses to be afraid of a lunge whip because I need lunging to be a controlled exercise - if they refuse to acknowledge it the way your horse is doing then they will get a good flick around their backsides.
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