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post #641 of 647 Old 05-28-2015, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Textan49 View Post
If I am getting the correct picture without actually seeing it myself, I think it is definitely related to the bit. Possibly the one you are using or one that she was previously trained to stop with and no one bothered to correct the headshake and now it's a habit. I would both look for a bit that she is more comfortable with ( sometimes it's not the amount of leverage, it's the shape of the bit that the horse isn't comfortable with ), plus go back to some basics in teaching her to stop.
I'd try side reins on her so she can learn where her head is supposed to be. If her head is in the correct place, she will stop easier. i'd guess she's shaking her head because when she was a race horse, jockeys tend to balence themselves on the horse's mouth (pulling back on the reins) so your mare may be used to that still and is fighting back on the pulling back & shaking her head.
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post #642 of 647 Old 05-28-2015, 09:43 PM
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A single joint D-ring is fine for getting a horse used to a bit. Since it has been 5 months since Charmander17 asked about the single joint D-ring, her horse may already be doing fine in it or another bit. I had two horses started in a single joint full cheek and they both did fine. Like most things, you need to teach the horse the correct response and not assume they were born knowing it.

My new guy has most of his experience - and he's done a lot of trail riding in open country - in a sidepull. After trying a double joint snaffle and a single joint snaffle, his last 3 rides have been with a zero joint snaffle:

That doesn't mean in any way that the above bit is "the" bit to start a horse in. It just seems to be the one he currently understands best - and he has had time in a bit, just not sure of the conditions. Since the mouthpiece is identical to the Billy Allen curb I eventually want to move him to, it makes a nice starting point - but the horse got to 'tell' me which bit made the most sense to him now. I plan to expand his horizons so that most snaffles and curbs will eventually make sense to him.

As for where his head should be - I reckon it should be on the end of his neck. A horse shaking its head is hard to analyze from a few sentences because there could be a lot going on. As Textan49 mentioned, it could be the shape or thickness of the mouthpiece, it could be a habit, it could be annoyance that a bit is there, it could be the hands applying the bit...more information would be needed. But since the post that first raised the question was made in August 2013, it probably has sorted itself out by May of 2015. Hope so - the poster asked the same question on another thread:


and hasn't participated on the forum since 2 Aug 2013. Wherever she and her horse are, I hope it worked out well for them both!

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post #643 of 647 Old 06-04-2015, 02:56 PM
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First of all, thank you Smrobs for posting this! I found it to me extremely informative because im pretty clueless when it comes to bits!:P So i was wondering if you guys could help me with something. I have an 8 year old OTTB that i have been riding for about 4-5 years now, but just purchased officially last August. He is a wonderful and loving horse. Ive been doing training and working with him and he's like a completely different horse now! He's nice and light most of the time and is also spur trained. I mostly do speed with him, but i also do english pleasure, hunter hack and equitation stuff. its been tricky for me finding an english bit that works really well for him. I used to use a kimberwick, but then i was told that i cant use it for jumping, so i stopped using it. then i purchased a regular dee ring snaffle for him and he seemed really hard in it. it took a lot of pulling and yanking to get him at a headset (which normally doesnt take any effort with his other bit) so i thought he needed a harsher bit. so i then purchased a twisted dee ring with hooks on it (you know, for the reins and stuff) and he seems okay, but i feel like he's still not as light as he could be. So... i guess idk if i should just keep the bit i have on him now, or look for one that he would maybe be better in? and if so, which kind?!? like i said before, im knda clueless about bits, and could really use the help. Thanks! Here is a picture of the twisted bit im using on him now.
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post #644 of 647 Old 06-04-2015, 03:30 PM
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sorry! that is a pic of the one i used before i changed to the twisted one! :P lol

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post #645 of 647 Old 06-05-2015, 02:25 PM
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I have a 9 year old fjord gelding who's trained to pack, but not to ride. He has a really wide muzzle and I've read that fjords have low palettes. Is there a bit someone could recommend to start with? For now I'm teaching him rein cues from the ground with a side pull.
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post #646 of 647 Old 06-09-2015, 03:53 PM
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My horse is HYPER and LOVES to run!!!!!
I run barrels on him and other speed events , I run him in an o ring snaffle bit....
a bit needs to compliment your training and riding but if a horse is trained right it should be able to ride in a snaffle.

I whole heartedly agree with your post! thanks for the info.
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post #647 of 647 Old 12-03-2015, 08:07 PM
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