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post #1 of 6 Old 05-06-2014, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Yearling Lead issues

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for some advice on how to handle my yearling. He is a great boy normally, I can brush him, pick up his feet, play with his ears, nose,mouth, spray his mane and tail with a spray bottle, and we are working on clippers now! He even runs to me and stands when I go to catch him in the pasture! He USED to lead like a champ too, he hardly ever acted out.
In the last couple of weeks he has been acting out on the lead, to the point now where I'm nervous to lead him outside in fear of him getting away from me, he is very large and strong. I will be leading him fine and then it's like he gets scared, even though we walk by the same things every day just going to and from the barn, he will jump out and face me. I started with just calmly saying, "it's ok" thinking he's scared, and then regathering the lead and continuing on our walk, but now he does it more often! So then I tried yelling NO and pulling down on the lead when he did it, but he seemed to get worse with that also, so then I tried to yell NO and when he backed up making him continue to back and pull down on the lead, but now he's a monster and that's when he tried to get away from me and the other day even kicked out at me, I am just frustrated at this point and don't want to lose his trust and respect that we did have established. Once I get him in the barn he is typically fine, will let me still brush him and pick his feet up, put his blanket on and all! I don't know if he has way more energy now that he's out on pasture, or is disrespecting me in front of the other horses he sees outside, or what his deal is but I need help! I want to know what to do when he acts out. He also tends to push into me when I'm leading him.

Thank you,
Kayla
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Is he gelded? And how old are you and is this your first youngster?

He is doing what is normal for a horse of this age, and if he isn't gelded, that needs to be attended to.

Every time he gets away with this, he is going to get worse. And trust and respect has nothing to do with this. He is learning he can run the show.

What type of shank are you using, and is there anyone else around to help you on the ground?

If all you are doing is pulling straight down on the lead, that does no good as just something for him to brace against.

Do you know how to use a chain shank? And where exactly are you walking him to, just the barn?

Horse needs a HCTJM in the worst way, but until I know more about your age, and experience, I am hesitant to tell you to do what I would do myself.

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when I was handling young horses and teaching them to lead, I would put a regular lead and a chain lead ( either over the nose or under the chin) and I would work off the rope lead but have the other one ready and if the colt acted up, I would switch to the chain lead and stop this bad behavior right away. Yearlings are too big for me to out pull and with the chain they quickly learned to behave but I didn't have to use it all the time, just when they acted up. I wanted my young horses to be well behaved so I could lead them anywhere on the farm and they would stay right with me, eventually I would pony them around so that when the time came for riding they were already well started and never had a problem with them
Unfortunately once a young horse learns they can get away with something they will continue to try and that is why I want to stop this bad behavior immediately. After they are well trained to lead, the chain lead was no longer needed.
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Is he gelded? And how old are you and is this your first youngster?

He is doing what is normal for a horse of this age, and if he isn't gelded, that needs to be attended to.

Every time he gets away with this, he is going to get worse. And trust and respect has nothing to do with this. He is learning he can run the show.

What type of shank are you using, and is there anyone else around to help you on the ground?

If all you are doing is pulling straight down on the lead, that does no good as just something for him to brace against.

Do you know how to use a chain shank? And where exactly are you walking him to, just the barn?

Horse needs a HCTJM in the worst way, but until I know more about your age, and experience, I am hesitant to tell you to do what I would do myself.
He is gelded he was gelded in December, he is my first young one but my dad is helping and he has experience with young horses so he will help me if need be. I have not been using a chain but I have one I just was hesitant to use
It thinking he may get less excited about being led around since he used to not act like this. I am 22 years old. I have been waking him in the arena, around the barn alley,
In the yard, but most of the time to and from the barn since I don't have full confidence yet of leading him.
In the barn he is excellent, doesn't
Try anything but I get him outside and he starts doing this.
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IMHO, I think "outside" means "freedom". He knows he has an option outside that he doesn't have in the barn. He may indeed trust you to a point, but he most definitely does NOT respect you. About the leading, if you are regathering the lead, then it's too long. You started out telling him that spooking was "okay" and now it isn't. You've changed the rules on him. I ignore spooky behavior and go on with whatever I'm doing. I do not want to give spooks undue attention. I want a horse to listen to me and trust me that everything will be okay. His safety is MY job, not his. I lead short (with my hand about 8" or so from the snap) and if they are not listening to me, then we turn and go in another direction, back up, etc. He's not paying attention like he should so I wouldn't let his mind wander. I personally, do not use chains on youngsters. I would suggest using a stiff rope halter instead.

Just my .02 worth! Good luck!
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IMHO, I think "outside" means "freedom". He knows he has an option outside that he doesn't have in the barn. He may indeed trust you to a point, but he most definitely does NOT respect you. About the leading, if you are regathering the lead, then it's too long. You started out telling him that spooking was "okay" and now it isn't. You've changed the rules on him. I ignore spooky behavior and go on with whatever I'm doing. I do not want to give spooks undue attention. I want a horse to listen to me and trust me that everything will be okay. His safety is MY job, not his. I lead short (with my hand about 8" or so from the snap) and if they are not listening to me, then we turn and go in another direction, back up, etc. He's not paying attention like he should so I wouldn't let his mind wander. I personally, do not use chains on youngsters. I would suggest using a stiff rope halter instead.

Just my .02 worth! Good luck!
Thank you! I will try to not let him get so far away from me, I normally walk close by like you're
Saying but then when he gets scared he overpowers me is what happens, I think you're
Right about not letting his mind wander, I am going to put
These suggestions to play and do my best
To not let him get away with it anymore.
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