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post #1 of 13 Old 01-24-2020, 02:28 AM Thread Starter
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What kind of horses are used in English fox hunts?

Are English-style fox hunts still in operation in America?
What are the kinds of horses are so used?
Are live foxes pursued and killed in the American versions of English-style fox hunts anywhere these days?
Some such 'hunts' in California use dummy foxes that are dragged.
If I were to fox hunt, I'd want to pursue a live fox with the possibility of shooting it.
What is "hunter seat equitation" specifically?

Why do the tails look goofy on the horses in this video?
Is braiding the manes of hunting horses the custom?
Are mane braids just for show?


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Yes Fox Hunting is still going on in the US.
I have never hunted in the US but believe that it is different to the UK in that they rarely ever kill th Fox.

Any horse can be used for followimg Hounds, they all love it. A good Hunter in the UK can fetch 15,000. +

When Hounds follow a laid line it is called Drag Hunting, which is what all Hunts in the U.K. are meant to do after a ban on Hunting with Dogs was passed in 2004. Hunts try to adhere to the rules but quite often foxes jprun across the Drag line and Hounds follow that.

It is traditional for manes to be plaited and the reason some tails look funny is because they too are plaited and turned up to stop them getting so muddy.
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Yes Fox Hunting is still going on in the US.
I have never hunted in the US but believe that it is different to the UK in that they rarely ever kill th Fox.

Any horse can be used for followimg Hounds, they all love it. A good Hunter in the UK can fetch 15,000. +

When Hounds follow a laid line it is called Drag Hunting, which is what all Hunts in the U.K. are meant to do after a ban on Hunting with Dogs was passed in 2004. Hunts try to adhere to the rules but quite often foxes jprun across the Drag line and Hounds follow that.

It is traditional for manes to be plaited and the reason some tails look funny is because they too are plaited and turned up to stop them getting so muddy.
My take on hunting: if there is no real intent to kill the animal pursued, it's fake. If hunters carry no guns, they are phony. If real dogs don't follow live foxes, it isn't fox hunting to me. I think there also has to be a horn blower in the hunting party too. Stupid laws have ruined many genuine traditional things over the years. America is plagued by bad game laws to boot. The American South remains most loyal to hunting traditions but there can be a lot of troubles with the landed gentry. Tension between hunters and landowners persists.

No, I don't like it when hounds tear foxes apart. Flushing to guns is humane.

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Ever seen dogs kill? It is way faster than majority of people realise.

I would rather hunt rats with terriers and lurchers than use poison.

Fact is with Fox Hunting is that the lead Hounds will usually break the fox's neck then the rest will break it up.

I had a Lurcher that would kill a Fox easily.
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Ever seen dogs kill? It is way faster than majority of people realise.

I would rather hunt rats with terriers and lurchers than use poison.

Fact is with Fox Hunting is that the lead Hounds will usually break the fox's neck then the rest will break it up.

I had a Lurcher that would kill a Fox easily.
I still find much more thrill in hunting with tools that go BANG! What if I were to want to save the fox pelt to make a nice presentable mount for my hunting lodge or barbershop?

In Britain there have been violent confrontations between fox hunters and animal rights activists. I used to think the Brits were so civil, refined and polite, but all that all ends when fox hunters and fox-huggers meet, no, clash:


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Why don't you share more about yourself; do you have horses? Do you ride? Are you interested in the health and welfare of horses? I'm just curious...

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I still find much more thrill in hunting with tools that go BANG! What if I were to want to save the fox pelt to make a nice presentable mount for my hunting lodge or barbershop?

In Britain there have been violent confrontations between fox hunters and animal rights activists. I used to think the Brits were so civil, refined and polite, but all that all ends when fox hunters and fox-huggers meet, no, clash
Usually the mask is unharmed. It used to be presented to a follower also the brush and the pads to children.

The Antis profess to love and protect animals yet they though nothing about spraying pepper spray in the Foxhounds faces or slamming gates against the horses. Majority of the Antis were students that were paid to protest and quite a bit of money for the day.

In over 50 years of followimg Hounds I have never seen an injured fox, the healthiest get away, it is usually the sick and old that get caught. I have, however, seen many a Fox suffering from a gun shot wound.
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Apart from Drag hunts there are also bloodhound hunting which is brilliant, you get to chase people!

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This is all second hand information from a retired doctor and fox hunter who gave a presentation on fox hunting to my daughter's 4-H club recently. Fox Hunting or Fox Chasing as they prefer to call it now is alive and well. He actually belonged to two hunt clubs located within 3 hours of each other. They don't kill the fox as they have no use for a dead fox and they might want to chase the same fox or it's progeny in the future. He said in his 40+ years of Fox Chasing he had only seen a few foxes killed when the hounds caught a sick one or the fox went across a road. Rather than a hunt that developed in England as a way to rid the countryside of a nuisance predator it has evolved into a social event on horseback steeped in tradition. There was no mention of anyone being armed. He was careful to point out that they don't want to end up like their English counterparts and have their sport banned. One of the youth asked about horses and he said anything goes as long as English tack was used and the horse and tack was neat and presentable. My understanding was that the horses were divided into 3 groups or fields with the first being the daring and fast riders who rode Thoroughbreds or Warm bloods. The middle field was a bit slower and some would be on Quarter horses and the third or last field was the novice riders or those on green horses.


As a farmer with a back yard flock of laying hens that my kids tend to and sell their eggs I have no love of foxes who have on occasion taken a chicken or 18. I have two college buddies who come once a year with their electronic calls and rifles to harvest a few foxes. The pelts are sold even though the fur market is way down. If you want to shoot and kill a fox I suspect you would be better received by a poultry farmer than a Fox Chasing club so long as you are a responsible hunter.
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Several of the big organised shoots, before the season starts, will ask the Hunt to put the Hounds through the land to ensure the pheasants take fight.

The big problem in the UK is that there are to many bunny huggers that want to protect wild animals. This is well and good but like anything they need to be managed.

The red fox is a very clever beast and now has taken to cities and towns, living off scraps and people feeding them. I could not believe my eyes when one sunny afternoon I saw a fox walking across my cousin's lawn feet in front of her house. He was enormous as tall as a springer spaniel and obese. Not just fat but gross.

Her neighbour put out three chickens a day to feed them plus other scraps.

Mr Charles went his normal route to go up the drive, cross the road and onto the Downs where he no doubt lay up until hos next dinner was served.

Except ........... as he reached the front of the house my dogs in the car with the windows down, saw him and the chase was on. I doubt Charlie had run for a long time but he did on that occasion. I called the dogs off. Guess the exertion was to much for him as next day on his way to his dinner he just dropped dead on cousin's lawn.
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