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post #21 of 28 Old 02-18-2009, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by travlingypsy View Post
How long have you been taking lessons?

Once I started up jumping lessons again (last one was summer) my position was really week, so what I did to strengthin my position and keep my heels relaxed and down, is I would sit 4 beats, post 4 beats, jumping position 4 beats..at the trot. It helped with me at least.
i've been taking lessons for 11 and a half years but only started jumping half a year ago. On the flat my heels are fine. thanks for the advice everyone :)
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Two things I have learned from a couple of very well credentialled trainers.

A good exercise to learn how to stay loose through your ankle and keep your heels down is to stand on the balls of your feet on a step, knees slightly bent and legs apart (like you are sitting on a horse). Drop your heels and then practice bringing them up and dropping them down, then lean forward like you are going into a crutch three or two point. (helps to hang onto something).

Next, as someone said earlier, turn your toes out. Three strides out you should be sitting and riding the horse into the jump, and give a little squeeze with your calves (toes out). Two strides out, do a slightly harder squeeze with your leg. One stride out squeeze and hold your legs on the horse. This way you are keeping the forward movement happening and you have your safety belt firmly fastened.

It is surprising (after being told this), how many people stop riding 3 or 4 strides out from a fence.

Remember to keep your toes turned out, it may be really exagerated at the start but after a while it will be slightly less.

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post #23 of 28 Old 02-18-2009, 07:27 AM
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thank u :) that was very helpfull
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post #24 of 28 Old 02-18-2009, 10:47 AM
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My new gelind was a top show jumper a few years ago but after that he had a rider who never really released, would be interested in any ideas on how to get him jumping in a propper bascual agian rather then the hollow inverted jump he is doing at the moment. Have been doing lots of grid work on a long rein so he can stretch down and I am over enphisisng my release at the moment so if he wants to he can reach without me getting in his way at all. any other tips? I cant free jump cause the head instructor would kill me.
You are doing exactly what you should be doing.

When I cliniced under Dorothy Crowell - CIC**** CCI**** Eventer, I was on a TB with the same issue that I was riding/training for a client of the barn I worked at.

What Dorothy had me do, was approach the fence in a slow, rhythmical trot, put him in check 4 strides from the fence, and over exaggerate my release while grabbing mane and wrapping my leg around his girth to keep his back lifted.

It is about moving off of hind end, not forehand and jumping flat. It is about continuing to support him to the fence through your seat and lower leg. Lower leg lifts the back/ribs.

Proper Hand carraige is important as well - while remaining soft and supple.

Just keep at it. Remember, your seat, legs and aids are just as important at keeping him rounded as well.

But you are on the right track :)

Continue to remain at the trot. Until he gets it.
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post #25 of 28 Old 02-18-2009, 11:17 AM
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travlingypsy, you might think about shortening your stirrups a hole or two. Chances are, your knee gripping is being caused by your stirrups being too long which makes it hard for you to really sink into your heel, especially when jumping. By shortening your stirrups, you should be able to really sink into that heel and give yourself a good base of support, which will keep your leg from sliding back, which causes knee gripping. Just a thought.
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post #26 of 28 Old 02-18-2009, 11:22 AM
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You are correct, leather length is very important - and so is proper placement of the iron on your foot.

If incorrect, this will not give you the base of security needed, this will not allow your heels to do their job, which is anchor you. Both very important to have correct.

If you don't have the base, you resort to gripping for that base of security that is lacking.

I highly encourage Lune Line Work with no reins. You will find your seat really fast, you will find your base of security through your heels and you will find your center and balance.
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post #27 of 28 Old 02-18-2009, 01:30 PM
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Thanks guys!
I will shorten my stirrups, and work on the lunge line some more. I will also keep in mind about the toes pointed out, I dont think my trainer has ever told me to do that. I honestly think shes said keep your toes straight.

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post #28 of 28 Old 02-26-2009, 01:23 PM
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the way i help keep my heals down is when not riding step up on steps with only the ball of your foot like you were in a stirup and then "bounce" up and down it stretches out your heal muscles andmakes them stronger. also at a walk trot and canter stay in your 2 point and try as hard as you can to keep your two point and your heals down.
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