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post #1 of 10 Old 07-30-2018, 04:42 AM Thread Starter
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My horse slows before jump?

Hi, I've recently gotten a new horse, she's a 16.1hh Irish sport horse mare, we think that she may have been an ex hunter.
Anyways, when I tried her out (before I brought her) the owner easily jumped her over 80cm - 1m spreads (but since she was unfamiliar I decided not to jump her).
I've had her for about 7 weeks now, and I took her to a pony camp to test her out in a busy inviorment, she behaved like an angel but when it came to jumping she would rush at the fences and then slow down so u think she's going to refuse, and then she takes this massive leap over?
The problem has to be something to do with me because the owner jumped her fine? any advise??
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post #2 of 10 Old 07-30-2018, 06:35 AM
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Do you not have a capable instructor watching to give advice? A video is worth a thousand words. If you can have someone video a few jumps then we can see what is actually happening. There are all sorts of reasons for what you are describing and you are correct what is happening begins with you. Post something for us to see otherwise we are just guessing.
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It is common for a horse to exhibit uncertainty with a unfamiliar rider. Since this is true even when doing flat work, consider how a horse might behave when presented with the added challenge of a jump.

Ideally, you should find an instructor who not only knows jumping techniques, but also knows how to help horse and rider learn to develop a common communication.
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post #4 of 10 Old 07-30-2018, 08:08 AM
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The horse is saving it's own butt. Sounds like she's putting in a safety chip becuase she's coming into the fence too fast. A general rule is if they chip, the approach is too fast, if they take off long, they're to slow.

Slow down your approach. Make sure you are not jumping ahead and throwing her off balance as that will also cause safety chips.
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If she's hunted (assume you mean fox hunting?) then she'll very likely have galloped between fences wherever possible and then been slowed down by the rider as she approaches the fence.
It becomes a robotic thing with them after a while but her rider was controlling the gallop - still in contact and then still asking for impulsion when she dropped down into a canter to see a stride as the jump approached.
It could be that you're relying too much on the horse being 'point and shoot' and she needs more direction


A video would help
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post #6 of 10 Old 07-31-2018, 09:24 AM
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The horse is saving it's own butt. Sounds like she's putting in a safety chip becuase she's coming into the fence too fast. A general rule is if they chip, the approach is too fast, if they take off long, they're to slow.

Slow down your approach. Make sure you are not jumping ahead and throwing her off balance as that will also cause safety chips.
Yep I was going to say the same thing. The pony my son rides will fly at a jump and then add in that safety chip and pop over, if allowed.
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post #7 of 10 Old 09-13-2018, 12:47 PM
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It could be that you're relying too much on the horse being 'point and shoot' and she needs more direction
Agree with this 100%. Make sure you're sitting back and half halting as needed, combined with supporting legs and seat, so you maintain impulsion but curb rushing/running out ... at the point where she starts to back off, add more reassuring leg and more of a driving seat to reassure her that you're going over the fence.

If you are getting nervous or anxious when she's rushing, she'll feel that tension and think, "Oh no, something is probably wrong! Maybe we shouldn't jump this!" Your frame of mind on approach makes a huge difference ... you want to influence her in the direction of calm and forward. Think through it as you ride it ... think, "Easy, easy, easy, now forward, forward, forward." This mental shift has made a huge difference for me on my sensitive mare, who picks up on it if I'm not completely convinced that we're headed over a fence. You'll ride it how you think it.
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Work your horse over a cavaletti to get a good rhythm and to help with your adjust-ability and accuracy. If you are unhappy with your approach, this is the best place to work on it. If you feel your horse is backing of the last few strides, try riding him forward to find your takeoff point, and not take away from the canter to find your takeoff point. Once you feel like you are nailing 9 out of 10 of your approaches move to a small jump, and make sure you ride that exactly the same as you rode the cavaletti. The cavaletti is your best friend, you canít over do it, and the more you do, the more accurate you get.

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If you can post a video that would be super helpful in us taking a look to get a better idea of whats going on.
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This is literally what happens every time I have approached a jump and then chilled out because it felt like the horse was gonna do it all on their own. ..either a full stop or an uncertain leap. I'm no trainer or anything but you definitely gotta stick with her even if it feels like she's amped up with or without you. Its kinda stressful for them to have you directing them up to a fence and then all of a sudden you give them the wheel and expect them to stay on track with what you'd planned. That's how to face plant 😛 but I'm not qualified to answer this and that may not be the problem.

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