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post #1 of 159 Old 11-19-2014, 10:54 AM Thread Starter
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Cloud Racer

Week 1
I picked up Cloud on Veterans day. He is 6 months old with minimal handling. He is a Heritage Ranch raised foundation bred quarter horse. Because he's a weanling and hadn't been halter trained, we rmoved the dividers and loaded him onto the trailer with no halter. I have a video camera so that I can watch the horses going down the road. He hauled beautifully with no issues for the 5 hour drive.

When we got home it was dark so we backed the trailer up to the paddock, opened the gate and allowed him to mosey out of the trailer. He calmly met Riley over the fence and was only a little spooky.

The next day I haltered him with a rope halter and while he didn't freak, I was unhappy with the way it went because I felt like he was being manhandled into submission so the next day I put a nylon halter on him and left him for an hour dragging a lead rope. For two days after that I did the same thing for the entire day. He learned to give to preasure by stepping on the lead. He now seems to be leading quietly enough. He also will back.

He is picking up all four feet although I have not taken a hoof pick to him yet. He is also allowing me to groom every inch of his body and is no longer headshy. We sacked him out a little bit by placing an english girth on his back and worked with a jacket.

I think we might be ready for our first tie session.
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post #2 of 159 Old 11-19-2014, 11:04 AM
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He's so beautiful and cute! What color is he?

That last picture he's like "...really?..." lol
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post #3 of 159 Old 11-19-2014, 01:09 PM Thread Starter
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They registered him Dun but he has an odd Taupe color to his eyes so it's possible that he could shed out grulla. His sire and grandsire are both grullas. In fact, his granddam is also a grulla (on his fathers side) I'm hoping he's a buckskin color...?

I'm going to register him FQHA and ABRA as well but I geuss he'll be temporary until he sheds out and I can prove he is a buckskin or a dun although, grulla would be eligible as well.
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I played with him for a little while today but it got dark really quick. I sacked him out a little with my jacket and then spun it around either side of him. He wasn't happy about it but he dealt with it. I also picked up all four feet and leaned a little on him. He got some heavy hugs around the neck and then I stood in front of him and did a little jig. I jumped and flapped and kicked and irritated him but not enough to make him stop grazing while I held his lead rope.

I shook his little tail and patted his bottom. I knew he was a little cow hocked when I got him but he looked a little more so then I originally thought so I'll have to have the farrier out sooner then later. His feet are a little long but since he's 70 years old I really want him to hold his feet up really well. He's definitely getting there.

I have an appointment with the vet to have him gelded next week so I thought I'd check under there to see if he has dropped... I can't tell. I felt down there but he doesn't feel any different then a gelding to me so I'm worried we might not be able to geld him... He'll have to get his shots anyway.
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post #5 of 159 Old 11-19-2014, 07:13 PM
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Grulla is my favorite color, bar none. (Hehe.)

He's a gorgeous boy. You'll do great things with him.

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post #6 of 159 Old 11-20-2014, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
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I probably won't do daily updates as time go's on but today we tied. And it went well. I only tied him for a few minutes. Ten maybe but he just sort of stood there, maybe a little irritated... We also walked the ring a few times, cross the ground poles a couple times, grazed a little... picked up the feet and desensitized...

I keep waiting for him to bust a move or throw a tantrum but so far he's just a slow moving thinker....
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post #7 of 159 Old 11-23-2014, 06:42 PM Thread Starter
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Well....

Today was a dream to start. We headed down the driveway and back and then around the ring a few times. We stopped and backed and learned to move away from pressure...

I leaned on his left side, put my arm all the way over his back and just hung with him. Then went over to the right side. He wanted to move away but I kept moving with him. He got made and kicked towards me so I snatched his halter and said eh-eh. He pinned his little ears and charged me so I stepped forward and pushed him away. He jerked hard and rope burned my fingers. I forced him across the ring and then stood still while her ran to the right and the left of me but he never charged me again. I let him be while he had his little fit. The entire thing took about 5 minutes but my whole body was shaking when it ended because I'm a wuss on the ground.

Once he settled I stood with him a few minutes until I felt calm enough to begin again. I laid my hand on his right side. He stood. I scratched his back on the right side and then laid my hand again. He stood. I leaned a little pressure and he stood. I scratched his back and patted him then moved on to another exercise. I came back and laid my hand on the right side several times with very little reaction.

I hit his back legs with the lead line and he kind of kicked at it. Not at me but at the lead line so I got my Clinton Anderson stick and wrapped it around his front and back legs until he quit reacting to it.

Then I tied him for about 10 minutes while I cleaned his pen and then I clipped his little nose, picked his front feet and then tapped at his back feet with the hoof pick while I held them. He only lets me hold the back ones for about a minute so we are still working that.

I sprayed his mane w/ conditioner and groomed him really well before feeding him dinner and putting him to bed. I need to order him a blanket. I wonder how well that's going to go over????
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I was supposed to have him gelded today but the weather was poopie so the vet cancelled on me. We are now scheduled for next week.

He was a little goofy today because of the weather and since I had him in a stall all day but I worked him a little anyway. He was a little mouthy because I think I've been over treating so... backing off on the treats.

I wiped him down with a towel and groomed him and then turned and backed. I took a leadrope and started swatting his legs with it because when I walked passed him I saw a little cowkick, like going for a fly not actually aiming but it was enough to **** me off. He got all attitude so whenever he tried to intimidate me I backed him up but I'm not sure I was doing the rope wiggle thing right so I need to go watch some videos to see how people are doing it. I did get him to back and he licked his lips so I made my point.

We did some tie work and he was a brat. Pawing and pulling back. I don't actually tie him yet since he is only 6 months and I don't want him to hurt himself. Instead I weave the rope in between the stall bars. Regular pulling doesn't loosen them but if he sits back the rope will give. I stood in the stall and pulled the rope back if it got too lose. After about five minutes he was licking his lips and standing so I ended the session. I through him out for a minute while I prepared feed and then brought him back in. I took my handy stick and whipped at his back feet while he ate. after a few minutes he stopped cow kicking.

I don't know what I'm doing... I try to keep his sessions short and sweet but I also try to end on a win. He seems so sweet... I hate feeling like I'm being mean to him but I know I have to do these things... It's funny, I lost so much sleep over Riley because he scared the crap out of me with his intimidation factors... This one doesn't seem to try to intimidate. He gets upset and begs me to stop but only tries to be scary once in a while and as long as I have the right reaction he backs down quick.

I did notice today when my husband got home and was being silly with the camero in the driveway that he got a little nervous and was trying to get into my lap so I had to do a little my space session but he figured it out quick enough...

I went ahead and set up a time frame to drop him off at a trainer in July/August for his yearling boot camp. I'm getting so much more brave and confident with the ground skills but only in a controlled environment. I do small things so that I know I can handle the reaction. I'm not sure I can do the round pen work on my own so I will seek help for that. It sucks because the trainer is 2 hours away but after trusting the wrong people with Riley, I need someone I can trust and this is my sister in laws trainer. She trusts her and has had her horses with her for maybe 6 years now. She is doing boot camp on her yearling now so... I feel good about it.

So... I never have a great happy happy feeling about my training sessions because of my confidence issues but... I see little improvements with this dude daily so I think I'm doing things right. I've had him about 3 weeks now....
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post #9 of 159 Old 11-26-2014, 06:06 PM
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dont second guess yourself so much. I would guess that the only thing you can do wrong is be overly harsh , or be overly indulgent. sounds like you are taking the middle road, and things are going well.
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Jen, it sounds to me like you are doing great so far. He looks like a little darling (in spite of the bratty weanling antics LOL).

As for his color, he is definitely a skin, either buckskin or brownskin. I can't see his dorsal stripe well enough to decide if he is also a dun or whether it's just countershading. I'd lay odds he's going to be a stunning deep gold color in the summer when he's slicked off.
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