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post #2641 of 2684 Old 05-18-2020, 12:26 AM
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I think the fact that you're seeing differences in Link's behavior with different bits is a good sign that you may be able to find what he likes eventually. Phin looking at the equipment was so funny.
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I think the fact that you're seeing differences in Link's behavior with different bits is a good sign that you may be able to find what he likes eventually.
The "eventually" is what I am worried about!!


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Thursday, I went over to ride with Nicole. I rode Polo, who was on his best behavior.







11.2 miles, 781 feet of climb, 5.7 mph average pace, 60F real feel


Friday, I took George out for a ride with Gina on Amish and Nik on Windsor. We went over to do the Big Square and it was totally uneventful.


It was also downright HOT as momma nature sent us summer for the day.



11.0 miles, 680 feet of climb, 4.0 mph average pace, 80F real feel


I had intended to work with Link after I was done, but the heat gave me a migraine and I wound up in bed instead.


Saturday, Gina asked if I would ride Amish as a babysitter for her to ride Aztec. This is only the third time she's ridden that horse since getting him over a year ago and her last ride on him was last August! Amish was very chill and set a great example. We went over to the Tomhicken to do a bit of exploring.



We found this fun trail that went past those beaver dams and hoped it might connect to another set of trails, but unfortunately it just ended at the edge of one of the lakes.



12.7 miles, 1639 feet of climb, 3.6 mph average pace, 62F real feel


That afternoon, I tried Link in a D ring, single jointed snaffle with a medium mouthpiece that was slightly more curved. He was not impressed.



But on a good note, Link is doing really well with ground driving now!


Sunday, DH and I got Iggy and Phin out. We went over to do the Tomhicken loop. Things were still fairly wet from the surprise overnight rain.


Both boys were very well behaved. The slightly warmer weather helps with that!



It got more and more humid as the ride went on, so I was happy for the strong breeze.



On the way home, we went around Spaulding's and realized that Keith had planted all the way to the very edges of the field, leaving us no space to ride around them any more! That was super frustrating, as I use that area a lot.

We took the dogs for a walk while cooling out the horses.


19.2 miles, 1916 feet of climb, 5.4 mph average pace, 63F real feel


Later that afternoon, DH went over to Spaulding's with the brush hog to mow the swale that goes across part of the fields, hoping that we can still at least go in and out that way (it avoids having to go down the paved road as much).
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Monday, momma nature was a bit bipolar, as it started out drizzly and then suddenly after lunch it was sunny, humid, and WARM. I hopped on George bareback and went over to Spaulding's to check out where DH had mowed. Luckily, George was feeling pretty mellow and ignored the chaos on the tree farm.



I was able to figure out a path through the fields. It's not nearly as nice as being able to go around the outside, but sure better than nothing. I would hate to lose that way totally because it keeps me off the pavement as much as possible.



2.56 miles, 276 feet of climb, 3.3 mph average pace, 70F real feel


After dinner, I went out and tried Link in a loose ring, medium thickness french link with a sweet iron mouth and a copper lozenge. He was not impressed:





Tuesday, I got George out for a real ride. Temperatures had dropped overnight and the wind was brutal. George was a complete fool, spooking at nothing and acting like he'd never been on trail before. Things we have passed probably hundreds of times were suddenly monsters.



And he still travels wrong on the front, though today it was hard to tell just how many steps were NQR as I don't think he went in a straight line for more than two strides at a time.



George was so bad that I took him out for his cool down walk with the saddle still on, as I was afraid he would spook right out from under me bareback.



10.1 miles, 1291 feet of climb, 5.9 mph average pace, 58F real feel

After discussing his behavior with DH, we decided it was time for some additional testing - this time for PPID and EPM. He's been very late to shed this year and does have some muscle wasting along his topline, so I figured ruling out PPID/IR was worth it. George was treated for EPM a couple years ago and didn't present in a traditional way with it then, so it seemed like a good thing to rule out now, esp with the spooking to go along with the weirdness up front. I contacted the vet and she stopped to draw blood on her way home.


When I went to work with Link, I started out with the low port solid mouth kimberwick with the curb chain removed and the reins attached as a normal snaffle. Link was chomping and fussing over it even in the stall to groom and tack up, so wasn't a surprise that he hated it ground driving:


I didn't see the need to torture him, so we went back into the barn after about 5 minutes and I swapped the bit out for a D ring single jointed snaffle with a fairly thin, curved mouthpiece. That one wasn't an instant no, though he wasn't exactly thrilled with it. I still find it fascinating that he drops his head when he is trying to process something new that he is unsure of - a self-soothing behavior maybe?




Wednesday morning, I went out to work Link first thing. This time I tried a D ring waterford. I have to say I expected an instant no, but Link didn't initially hate it.


However, Link had a really hard time steering using that bit, and as we continued around, he started getting more and more head flippy over it. Another fail.


Then, I went over to ride with Nicole. I rode Polo. I took the treeless saddle for her to try on Hombre and we were thrilled when he was back to his old self!



The wind was RAGING and the horses were high as kites. I actually thought Polo was going to bolt with me at one point, so instead of doing the big loop we cut the last couple fields out to get into the shelter of the trees.



10.8 miles, 759 feet of climb, 5.3 mph average pace, 56F real feel
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Hi Phantom I'm sure you have had Link's teeth checked but I thought I would share this with you.
I once had a gelding that just hated bits, I started him on a bosel but when it came time to bit him up he hated it and I couldn't find a bit that he liked so I rode with the bosed but since he was young and green and I was riding out alone on him I worried that if something happened I wouldn't be able to deal with it with the bosel so I got a mechanical hackamore.
Now I absolutely hate them but thought I would try it and surprise of surprises he thought it was great and went so well on it.
You do have to have a very light hand with these things but he went out all over without a problem and I always rode alone in those days, he was a horse that I rode out on trails after just being on him about three times, he loved trails so much and the hackamore wasn't a problem as I didn't do much schooling with him but if I did I used the bosel
Just thought I would share this with you as something that just might work.
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I once had a gelding that just hated bits, I started him on a bosel but when it came time to bit him up he hated it and I couldn't find a bit that he liked so I rode with the bosed but since he was young and green and I was riding out alone on him I worried that if something happened I wouldn't be able to deal with it with the bosel so I got a mechanical hackamore.
I would actually prefer to keep him bitless because I think its easier on trail (assuming they behave of course), but I feel like being able to be ridden in a bit is a skill every horse should have, as most people ride with bits. While I don't ever plan to sell Link, I know that sometimes things happen we would never expect and I want him to be as prepared as possible in case of the unexpected.

So I will keep trying. I have a few more bits coming, so maybe one of those will be the answer. Otherwise, I will pick the one he is least fussy about and go from there, at least for a while.


One nice thing with all the ground driving in the wind, Link is learning how to control his impulse to spook and bolt. And if he can do that even using a bit he hates, I hold hope he can do it with one he tolerates (and, in time, a nice sidepull or hackamore).
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Iím sorry your rides all seemed tinged with something negative. Iíve heard some just prefer a bosal from my grandfather. Our Lucy is a hackamore horse (just the pencil bosal), and she thinks royalty should never carry a bit. Since we donít intend to show her as of now we just plan on leaving her in the hack.

I donít use them myself unless Iím on her. I just donít have the right hands for it. I feel confused about keeping them soft, but it seems they need to be more out and down and I just donít quite have the knack for it. My husband says I would if I taught myself, and Iím sure heís right, but I havenít had one that gave me the need.

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Our Lucy is a hackamore horse (just the pencil bosal), and she thinks royalty should never carry a bit.
Oh maybe that is Link's issue.. my fussy little prince!!


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Here is my princess Amore's "I don't like bits" face:



In a so-called "Happy Mouth" bit:


Her happy face when she is bitless:

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Here is my princess Amore's "I don't like bits" face:
I am very familiar with this face!!

I have 4 more bits coming early next week: two single joint bauchers, a copper wrapped single joint D, and a basic myler. Several of them were sent by @Tazzie , with the myler specifically rejected by both Izzie and Diego.. so I am hoping that Link will want to be different and love it! Fingers and toes crossed..


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