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post #3081 of 5347 Old 09-20-2016, 10:27 PM
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1\2 chaps are to keep your pants from getti g dirty where they contact the horse in an English saddle. The fenders on a western saddle generally prevent this. If there is still a problem, jeans can be tucked into western boots.

Most English riders used to wear tall hunt boots, but they got expensive, and manufacturers came out with multipurpose work boots(Ariat Terrains) and half chaps.
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Here you go, these are the Rio boots on clearance for $200cdn right now.

R9003 :: Rios of Mercedes ...


Well oh well, have to admit I like them ... a lot.

I have a pair of full quill Justin Ropers they are so comfy, the leather is extremely soft and giving to how my foot moves. Problem was they cost so much (even at a less than half-price sale) that I saved them 'for good', not for everyday going to the barn. Had them for years and only wore them a handful of times.

Then last year (another eBay find) got a pair of ostrich, but not full quill, used Justin Ropers. That helped the situation, and I love these new ones too. I wore the new ones to a doctor appointment, and 2 Doctors remarked on the nice boots!

Back to the Rios of Mercedes. Likely well worth the price, maybe a going out of style for the showring. That maybe another reason for the lower price.

I wonder if a sturdier/heavier leather would be better for you though. How much could you get a pair of Ariat pull on ropers for?

Also about the colorful stitching. It is not overboard, and certainly not excessive if you are in the real west. I am not - I'm in Ohio, and over the last decade or two English has become the predominant riding style here. I am in the minority with my western style anymore. Fancy western stitching makes me a bit more 'noticeable' than a plain or smooth boot.

Would you feel self-conscientious wearing flamboyant boots? If so, then no reason to get a pair. You have enough to think about learning horsemanship to bother with that.

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Because it is one pair, one size. The chances of more than a couple of people wearing that size walking into the store wanting that boot is unlikely....

Yes. Also boot makers, hat makers, show clothes makers, saddle blanket makers, saddle makers, and all try to keep styles ever changing so that every season every person showing will need to buy something new to keep up with trends.

Like jewelry at department store counters, it always seems to be 50% to 70% off retail price. So are the high priced exotic boots frequently on sale for great markdowns.

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Nice looking boots & cheap for ostrich !!!

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If they make you happy, then keep the half chaps. If you'll be self conscience about them, then don't. Like @anndankev said, you have enough to think about other than if you stand out wearing them (or fancy boots.)

Far as boots for riding... I've had the same zip up Ariats for 4 years, and I intend to get as much if not more use out of them. The half chaps I've only had about 2 years? I think? Because the ones I originally got didn't fit anymore. And my tall boots are less than a year old because I had to replace my original tall boots; I lost a ton of weight, in the calves even, and they no longer fit. My husband made me get new ones since the other ones were disgustingly big in the calf. He also just made me replace my every day boots that I've had 3 years because I'd totally worn them out. I kept pushing it off until he said enough. I don't care to spend money on things I don't feel I need. I just think buying boots to fit stirrups are a bad choice. The stirrup should always be made to fit the boot you are wearing to ride (unless you're riding in bad footwear, but in this case you aren't.)

As for style, if you were to ever show it'd most likely be in the local schooling show rings. And let me tell you about our local schooling show that I'm on the committee for. It may as well be a time capsule. We had rust colored breaches and green hunt coats. We had some pretty interesting Western pleasure outfits. These people just go out to have fun, and wear whatever they had handy. Those boots are on sale since it's the end of the season and the latest thing will be coming out. Unless you're showing at the top level, you do not need to follow trends. I think that woman saw you as a quick sale. You'd already looked at those boots. She knew you had interest. Now the price has magically dropped and she says you need them for the stirrups she says are fine for you. She has you hook, line and sinker buddy.
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Here you go, these are the Rio boots on clearance for $200cdn right now.

R9003 :: Rios of Mercedes

The owner at the store said that she is not getting anymore in until the drop goes back up because right now they would be $900cdn if she were to bring them in.

Then why is she clearing out her 1 pair left for $200? I don't get it.

Yes the Ariat Terrains expose the ankle.
Ok dude, I already told you this about a hunnert pages back those are NOT riding boots, but church/dance hall/night on the town/showring boots.
Who cares what others think?Fact of the matter is I don't really care if you ride in a tutu and ballet slippers, but do it because it what makes you comfortable and happy, not because some sales person or fellow boarder tells you to do.
I ride in 4" monels so my foot is always in the "home" position. So I wear a 2 1/2" riding heel. But my heel is still dropped.
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Riding with 4"monels also means there less room for your foot to move forward. My foot is a solid 4.5" wide with a boot, I can't pull it off and like a roomier stirrup personally.
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Riding with 4"monels also means there less room for your foot to move forward. My foot is a solid 4.5" wide with a boot, I can't pull it off and like a roomier stirrup personally.
I went from oxbows to Monels, so from one extreme to the other!
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@6GunKid do your thing. I agree with @natisha lol.

So...any pictures????
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I went from oxbows to Monels, so from one extreme to the other!
Yea. I always felt unstable in oxbows. Prefer monels much better. Really like slanted stirrups too!
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I have seen people get dragged but it was OFTEN because their foot was home in the stirrup AND SLIPPED FORWARD during a spook that then escalated...
I've come off once, using an English saddle. I was trying to dismount at the time, which meant my stirrup was at the ball of my foot. I normally use the home position, but use the ball of foot when dismounting. Mia had bolted. I had stopped her. But I tried to dismount without settling her, which was a bad idea. She did a small rear, spun 180 and leaped across a bunch of rocks. I must have come off at the start of the leap.

Only one foot was in the stirrup at the time. There was a very clear and distinct (and dark) bruise on my foot. Based on that, I know that during the excitement, my foot slid in until the heel of my cowboy boot stopped it. Then my foot and the stirrup did a brute force disconnect...

When things get exciting, your foot will go wherever it goes in a stirrup. That is part of why I always have worn cowboy boots, and make sure my stirrup is sized and shaped so my foot CANNOT go all the way thru. I also like my riding boots a looser than my 'go to church' boots. I want my feet to be able to slide out easily. I don't care if the horse runs off with my boot, provided I'm not still in it!

The home position was just about universal in the Old West.



It was taught by the US Cavalry. It is common in sports that involved aggressive riding - polo, steeplechase, cutting, roping, barrel racing. It is looked down on in dressage and WP - two sports that emphasize control, slower speeds and collection. VS Littauer, in the Showjumping Hall of Fame, recommended it. Harry Chamberlin, who largely wrote the Cavalry's manual on equitation, considered it critical for anything other than schooling an already trained horse.



It does not, in any way, prevent the heels from being down:





"Heels down" should come from one's weight flowing uninterrupted past the knees and in to the heels. Doing so means a sudden stop will drive you deeper into the saddle and stirrups rather than pitching you forward. It has nothing to do with the shape of the stirrup - I've done it in 2 bar English, 4 bar Australian and multiple western stirrups.

The home position is more commonly seen in western riding now than in English. Some say the folks I'm citing are out of date, that we "know more" than they did. I think the difference is that people used to spend more time riding outdoors, and now there is much more emphasis on riding in an arena.

I'm not suggesting anyone has to use the home position. Folks should use what works for them. But the home position was taught by people who did rough riding outdoors. It is still very common in western riding - maybe over 50%. It should not be ruled out, nor can I find any indication it is more dangerous. If it were more dangerous, folks riding rough would avoid it instead of adopting it....
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