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post #1 of 21 Old 06-24-2019, 01:48 AM Thread Starter
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Restarting Roxy, OTTB

Well, the time has finally come that I'm going to be moving my mare to the stables.
I had hoped the one pen would get cleared on the property so that I could work with Roxy at home, but that doesn't seem to be happening so I got in contact with the barn owner and she told me I was allowed 2 horses in a paddock at the stables for no extra cost. So that's what I"m going to do since I already have my gelding there.

Basic Roxy Info: (for those who haven't heard about her before)

Registered name for anyone curious: I'mnaughtyandnice (describes her personality perfectly lol)
15 year old mare.
Registered Thoroughbred.
About 15.2 hh.
Raced in her younger years. Then became a broodmare and a lesson horse between foals.
Dumped off at a rescue by the time she was 14.
Fostered for a year.
Sold in the spring of 2018. Was mistreated a great deal.
Foster lady took her back and rehabbed her.
November of 2018, I bought her and continued her rehab of gaining weight and getting chiro to fix up her back.

Issues:

At this point, Roxy "tolerates" me so to speak. She has a very sassy, marish, leader type of personality. I'm quite laid back and relaxed with things. So our personalities don't mesh too great, but we get along well enough. However, due to all the space she has to roam, she'll chose to walk somewhere else instead of stick around for getting some loving. Catching her is no problem. And if she's grazing, she'll "put up" with me coming over to rub her a bit. But that's it. Otherwise she doesn't really want much to do with me and doesn't see me as the leader. I've tried to fix this, but due to all the space we have, she can easily just run off and ignore me. And to try to build that leadership with her while having her caught doesn't do anything.

She is very cinchy thanks to the people she was sold to in the spring as they would yank on the cinch and tighten it to the point it hurt her. So she thinks the cinch is going to hurt every time it touches her belly. Once cinched up, is totally fine. She just gets cranky and upset in anticipation of the cinching up and the pain she expects to follow it. I did have this almost fixed at one point but then we had a late snow storm so then I wasn't able to work with her for a while on it so we're back to nearly square one with that. She occassionally reacts this way when you go to put a saddle pad or the saddle on her as well for the same reasons. People before had ridden her in an ill fitting saddle and rode her hard. So getting ready for a ride in general she associates with pain most of the time.

Once riding, she'll walk decently. Sometimes she'll want to go faster, but with a gentle reminder, she stays walking.
However, when you try trotting, she throws a fit. She'll lift her head like she's wanting to rear, she'll back up or go sideways despite you wanting her to move forward, and has kicked out her back legs. She's also gone into the cantering motion while going no faster than the walk and will not listen.
Only way I've gotten her to settle down and trot nicely is to have her moving in somewhat small circles while doing a sitting trot. Rising trot or standing in stirrups makes her want to go faster (probably flash back to racing days or such). But like I said, there's not enough space here to work through this properly with the worry of her or I getting injured as there area lot of trees and fences around and I don't want her to back into a fence or tree and then freak out.
Plus side is, she's never bucked, reared, or truly bolted.


What she's good at:

Very easy to catch. No issues there at all.

She's also very sensitive to pressure. She moves off your leg quite well and can have a web or nylon halter on her and she's perfect. Smallest bit of pressure and she instantly listens. Example such as lunging and then asking her to stop and turn.

Ground manners are good.


Health + Tack

Her health is good. She's gained weight since I got her so she looks healthy now. She's up to date on everything. I've had others look at her trotting along a hard surface and they say she's moving quite well, especially considering how stiff she used to be when I first got her and there are no physical reasons for her to act up when going to a trot.

She is being ridden in an endurance saddle since it's the only one I've managed to find that fits her as she's narrow with high withers. I looked at a dozen or two saddles before finding this one. She has been ridden both English and western before as well as bareback. She seems to prefer going around in a halter than a bridle with a bit, so I'm looking into getting a bitless bridle.

So in general, she's in good physical condition (other than needing to build up some muscles now) and her tack fits her.


Plans:

I'm planning on working with her more regularly at the stables as she needs quite a bit of work. She did have the winter off to just get back in good health.

To start things off, I'll probably work her in the round pen and get things better established between her and I on the ground. From there, I'll work on getting her better with taking the saddle and being cinched up. Once that's completed, I'd move onto riding and taking things slow. I'll get her to become good at each gait before more moving onto the next. So like master the walk. Then go up to the trot, and from there the canter.

Since she also loves to jump, I'm hoping to eventually, as a long term goal, learn to jump with her. There are a few logs around the property and she'll go running towards them and just jump over them quite easily so I think this would be fun to do with her once her and I are working together as a team. I'm in no rush to do this, I'm simply looking at it as a long term goal to work towards with her.

Any other tips and suggestions are welcomed as well.


So ya, that about wraps things up. I plan to take videos of our progress and work with a trainer when it comes to riding since I haven't experienced tantrums quite like hers. I've dealt with bolting and bucking before, but not whatever this is that she does lol. So ya, hopefully things get better. First real hurdle though, is introducing her to my gelding, Jack, who's already at the stables. Crossing my fingers that it goes well, though I'm expecting some type of fireworks just because of the type of personality Roxy has. But I'm pretty sure they'll get along soon enough. And there will be extra people around just in case things do go badly.


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post #2 of 21 Old 06-24-2019, 12:53 PM
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Subbbbbing!! Can't wait to (continue) following your journey with Roxy! :)

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post #3 of 21 Old 06-24-2019, 06:29 PM
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subbing. She sounds hella smart! I look forward to seeing your progress. I'm lucky to have a fairly "easy" horse haha. I don't think I'd be up for even what you're describing. Kudos to you!
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post #4 of 21 Old 06-24-2019, 10:44 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys :)

And Roxy is quite smart. She's had one vet visit already cause she managed to get into the area where some of her food was and opened up the sealed tote and ate some beat pulp to the point she was choking on it >< So she's only smart to a certain degree lol
And you are very lucky for a horse like that! And I just look at this challenge as a way to better my skills as a rider and to learn to understand her better as well.


General Update

Roxy got a makeover today. Due to this, there are a few things to note.
First thing is that no matter what I do, Roxy's mane gets rediculously tangled. So I cut it. And it's my very first time doing this style of cut. I think it looks alright for my first time along with the fact she didn't hold her head still for more than 4 seconds at a time plus there was a lot of wind lol. So everything was kinda going against me for that.

Also, her hooves are starting to crack again. I think they're too dried out so I got some stuff to put on them to help give them more moisture and build up their strength. She's just not an easy keeper when it comes to her hooves it seems. When she arrived, she had thrush. Thanks to the snow of winter, the thrush never went away until this spring when the ground dried up. It was never bad though, it just kinda lurked there despite the several different things I'd do. And now her hooves are cracking.

Then, the farrier came several hours later. And somehow, in the last 6 hours between her grooming and the farrier arriving, she managed to stab herself in the foot. Or more exactly, along the coranary band at the back of her foot that's gone a little into the hoof wall. I seriously have no clue how she did this as earlier today, we were even walking around the pen, fixing things up and the only thing that I can think of, is that she messed up her jump over a fallen tree that was turning brittle and stabbed herself from one of those branches. Other than that, I don't know what she could have done.

Despite this injury, she's not lame at all. I'm going to grab some ointment in the morning as I can't find the stuff I had hanging around for the longest time so I'm going to have to buy some new stuff. But hopefully, with her being at the stables, she won't be able to injure herself again. And in general, hopefully her feet are back to 100% health too. Thankfully there's no lameness anywhere. From what I understand from her past, she's never been lame, even when she's gotten bad cases of thrush and other such things in the past. So her hooves are tough despite the stuff that keeps happening to them xP

Also, since she's rather bonded with my filly and the pony, I'm going to be starting to put her in a seperate pen during the day to start weaning her off of them to help make the transition to the stables a bit smoother for her.

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Aw, she looks good!
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Aw, she looks good!
Thanks ^.^
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By your description it sounds like Miss Lulu could be Roxy's little sister (In spite of the fact that Lulu is a Quarter Horse). For Lulu's tangled mane I use Cowboy Magic Super Bodyshine and thinning shears (purchased for the humans but now a horse grooming tool). Looking forward to your progress with her!
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By your description it sounds like Miss Lulu could be Roxy's little sister (In spite of the fact that Lulu is a Quarter Horse). For Lulu's tangled mane I use Cowboy Magic Super Bodyshine and thinning shears (purchased for the humans but now a horse grooming tool). Looking forward to your progress with her!
I use Cowboy Magic stuff too, but the most it's done is keep her mane fine for 3 - 7 days max and then suddenly, as if over night, there's a giant fist sized knot in her mane again >< One reason I cut her mane is because there was a knot that size that you could't see until you were brushing and I figured I'd cut it out instead of attempt to brush it out lol. So I feel for you too if your mare is similar to mine with the mane.
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post #9 of 21 Old 06-30-2019, 12:11 AM Thread Starter
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Today was the big day! Roxy has been moved to the stables successfully. She loaded easily into the trailer and was good for the short trip into town.

When I let her go into the pen with Jack, they sniffed at each other for a moment before Roxy started to walk off and explore her new home. Jack followed after her and was crowding her a little too much so kicked at him and he backed off. They walked around a bit more and again he started to crowd her so she gave a bit of a bigger kick. None of which really made contact, but after that, Jack kept his distance and Roxy wandered around. She honestly just blew off Jack all together and ignored him.

Once she met the paint gelding next to them, she was all for him. She squealed when they met, her tail started to get more active, she stomped her feet, and all that good stuff. It was quite something to watch those two as they constantly came back to each other and repeated all this many times with a kick or two coming from Roxy, but none landing as the railings were in the way. Definitely think she was going into heat and was flirting with him as there were times she'd present herself to him a bit. Any time Jack would go over to her, she'd ignore him and eat her hay or focus on the paint. A few times she did acknowledge Jack and they'd touch noses and then she was off again.

I spent a few hours watching them, making sure they got along. By the time I left, Jack and Roxy were eating from the same hay pile. I honestly figured things would go like this since I know both horses personalities. Jack is a bit more insecure and a follower, where is Roxy is quite confident and a natural leader. So it makes sense that they'd figure out their dynamic quickly since Jack isn't one to lead and looks to others for comfort and confidence and now he has that with Roxy. So hopefully they'll end up friends. I think at the very least, they'll tolerate each other.





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post #10 of 21 Old 06-30-2019, 11:03 PM Thread Starter
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Roxy has officially been at the stables for a full 24 hours. When I showed up this morning, she was hanging out quite happily with Jack. The two got along just fine as breakfast was set out and they'd even share a pile fairly often. They're honestly quite cute together.

I spent some time walking Roxy around the property to let her see more of her new surroundings and she took it in stride. Jack also has already grown attached to her and called out to her when he saw us coming back which was rather cute to see. I'm just going to have to make sure they don't get herd bound to each other. So other than the walk, I didn't do anything else with them as I figured I'd give them a day to get to know each other and let Roxy settle in and adjust to her new surroundings. Will probably do a few more things with her tomorrow and see how things go then.



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