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post #11 of 102 Old 03-04-2019, 01:57 AM
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The horses around here sometimes pick up some fungi from the soil or sand when rolling that makes the hair fall out. One horse went nearly bald all over. It wasn't like rain rot, no scabs or anything, just baldness. If you're not sure, you could always do a bath with some medicated shampoo like Eqyss Micro Tek. That cleared it right up for this horse and she grew all her hair back.

You can see the hair loss on the chestnut:


Her hair was so short you could see there was an underlying dappled pattern. That was just from the fungus making her hair fall out.
(The blue roan does have dapples too, hope that isn't confusing). Anyway, there were just patches of longer and shorter hair, no scabs or anything.
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post #12 of 102 Old 03-09-2019, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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The hair has stopped falling out and looks like it might even be growing back in in some places.

I took Diablo out a couple times to walk and trot in hand in the arena with soft rubber footing. He did ok and enjoyed it. Today I put the saddle on him and did the same and he was rearing a bunch on me!

When I broke him he pulled a hi ho trigger rear on the 10th or so ride... Hope it doesn't become a trend, but I've also noticed that he doesn't seem to really like this saddle. He is fine in the wintec with cair, which is fine, but so many people look down on them. Either way I'm going to walk and trot him in hand with the wintec instead next time and see if that is what's causing the changes.

Hoof boots were scheduled to arrive at the end of this week, but now they are being delayed till the end of next week... :(

Either way I'll just do more hand walking and trotting this coming week, then hopefully those boots will get here, and will fit. Then I can actually start lunging him to get that energy out, and then start working him with the saddle. Hope we can get back to riding soon. He's a really good responsive listener under saddle so it's fun. Ground is fine too, but I need to stay in shape too!
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post #13 of 102 Old 03-10-2019, 01:05 PM
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Yea, most of the time at this time of year it's just something simple.
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post #14 of 102 Old 03-16-2019, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
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Hair is definitely growing back in now. He is still shedding under his belly, and on his legs in some areas. He is shedding all weird, but that's okay for now, old hair is falling out and new hair is coming in. Hopefully it's just an adjustment to being in different location than before, and not the beginning of something more serious for him in his life. I've been putting coconut oil and tea tree oil on the bald areas to keep it hydrated and fresh, but they are only bald for a week or so before hair starts to grow in. He's been getting vitamins so hopefully this coat will be a lot better than the one before.

Hoof has grown out even more to the point where the sole is starting to fill in behind the hole. I'm a little worried that in around 6 months or so he might have another bad abscessing. When I got him he had a dent in his hoof wall, that dent finally grew all the way down and got trimmed off over the past month. Now were at the end of that bad section of hoof, and moving forward to post injury hoof. The post injury hoof is good, but it's not great. All the hoof growing in since he's been with me looks pretty good, it's just over half his hoof growth. When I got him the toe was pushed forward, so it got beveled back without making him sore, and the heels came up under him a little more instead of being crushed. The angle changed as a result of all of that, so there's another dent like thing growing down his hoof. I hope when that post injury wall grows down and comes off it's not as problematic for him as this has been.

Then there's the soles, which overall look pretty good. They are calloused and dished to some degree. Better definition than before. He has the solar abscess growing down on one hoof, and a few other artifacts here and there on the other front one. I use low level peroxide on cotton to wash the hole out then stuff a small cotton ball with a dab of betadine on it. It stays in for 1-2 days.

The frogs are starting to peel off, which is stinky. I realize a frog shouldn't be stinky, but the abscesses had brewed under there and they seeped out through the frogs, back by where they meet the heel. Hopefully that old frog peels off and the new stuff isn't too tender and callouses up nice over the next few months.

The hoof boots arrived and fit! They stayed on as well. I have been hand walking and trotting in hand and on the lead with him. We were staying to the barn isles, then the driveway, then finally the covered arena with nice soft footing. Today with the boots I dared to put him out in the stone footing. He was totally fine and gave a great gallop around before he tired himself out from screaming and then we walked around the property to cool off.
The boots are fantastic! They didn't come off through galloping and bucking, so the only other question will be to find out if he can jump in them. Then he can wear them as needed for working in the future.

I'm hoping to let him out for a few days then put him out in some of the pastures, then eventually he can go out with the other geldings. I also want to get him working with these boots. Might throw the saddle on him and walk and trot around to get a baseline for what we can do with these boots. Hope he calms down and pokes around so I can go in the covered and start doing some real wtc work stuff.
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post #15 of 102 Old 03-24-2019, 11:57 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, so I've gotten out to ride a few times now since the boots arrived last weekend.

After the boots got here and he went out galloping he was really calm so I just did a quick wtc test to see where he's at. Some stiffness through the shoulders, hip, and back. Boy friend got on and walked him around for fun.

I think that on that saturday, the first day with the boots, he bucked and threw his hip out. He won't left lead canter, and has some tender and soreness in the hip on both sides. He did this after the chiropractor came and I let him out too, bucked and out went the hip... It did go back on it's own with stretching and light exercises.

The other thing is that when he got adjusted I heard his hip popping while she adjusted it. I think there's some scar tissue and damage in his hips that's aiding the problem. It's not a huge deal, I think he will work out of it, especially if I start doing some hills and cavaletti. I don't think his adjustments will hold without me getting him some strength first. He's got it in his topline a bit better, but his rump needs it more now.

That aside, I've taken him out riding 3 times to see what I have.

I took him out once when a horse in the arena over bucked their rider off and galloped around and Diablo just watched and worked. He was a little concerned, but so was I. Nothing noteworthy though. Walking and trotting was fine, cantering was fine on the right, but again no left. I trotted him in and out a half cross rail twice, which he hoped over like a real jump.

Next time we went in the covered arena were there were 2 or 3 other people. They also store hay in there so there was a bit of hay moving going on too. He got startled a few times, but for him that's a sudden stop and neck jerk up, and that's it for his spook. Did a lot of walking and trotting. I did some circles and serpentine and sitting trot. He slows really well within his gaits and maintains them without constant or even intermittent asking. He was still stiff but I can feel more now where he is being stiff. Circling to the right he throws his left shoulder and hip out, circling to the right he is okay. Started going on the bit on his own with the kimberwick. The rein is on the top slot, so it's more of the chain action for slowing than the leverage, though there is a very mild amount of leverage there.

Next time I took him out there were 5-6 people in the covered arena and the olympic dressage lady had her court set up and was schooling horses and all her crew were out schooling too, so it was a bit too much juggling them and the other people just riding for leisure. Diablo did ok, but he was telling me it was a lot for him. He was shaking his head a bit by the gate and hay area, and when other horses got too close. He also got a little upset when someone came cantering up behind him, which will need to be addressed in the future. I just did walking and trotting and did leg yields on and off the rail since there wasn't much space for anything more.

After that he went out on pasture and just decided to play and stand by the gate rather than eat. He was on pasture before and didn't eat much grass and looked kinda thin but okay. We are trying to put him out on pasture again, now that his feet are doing better, and it's a bit of an affordability thing. At this facility though, if something's not right they can accommodate us, unlike the other barn where Dodge still is. Anyway, we want him to eat grass before he goes out, and he isn't doing that in the small paddocks, so I will likely have to hand graze him, or something else, cause I don't really have time to hand graze him for 4 hours a day after work...

Been giving him some massages and stretching him out which is improving the hip, and riding isn't hurting so were doing that. I want to let him out to turn out but I'm a bit worried that his bucking will undo the stretching, massaging, and targeted exercising. Right now when he's bucking its only with one leg out because of the hip thing. I think I will just focus on the balance between mental and physical health for him.

Lastly the plan I had originally hoped to follow will be adjusted a bit since there's so many people using the arenas all the time, I can't really train him how I imagined. I'd need an arena to myself to have focused and carefree training. Not gonna happen, but not bad either. Last time I rode him he was going down and on the bit too much. Great he wants to go on it on his own, but he's not flexing quite right so might need to back to the drawing board to look at bits and lateral softening, rather than vertical softening and stopping.

I have some pics I will try to post here too.
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post #16 of 102 Old 03-24-2019, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
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I will try to put these in order,
Late August right before loading to ship up here.
Late September after 1 month with me at old barn.
Late October, still at old barn 2 months in.
November, other side, don't have any from other side...
None from December, I have pics from January, but bf is riding so I won't post.
February at the new barn, a couple weeks in and after being adjusted.
March pics taken a few days ago.
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post #17 of 102 Old 03-24-2019, 12:18 PM Thread Starter
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Oops, looks like march pics didn't make it in the last post, here they are!
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He does look good.
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post #19 of 102 Old 03-25-2019, 12:30 AM
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Oh wow, he is looking really nice now. All that TLC is adding up.
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post #20 of 102 Old 03-30-2019, 04:59 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you both! Yes, been working on all sorts of things with him to increase his health. I think I learned a bit from Dodge, who had a ton of problems when I got him, that I can address more than one issue at a time, rather than solving the worst thing, then the next worst... So Diablo got hoof care, body work, and nutritional needs all met around the same time rather than one at a time.

Today I rode Diablo in our little gravel arena. He was a bit of a turd when I got him out from his stall. I checked his feet and he kept yanking them away from me. I lost it on him once which is a little embarrassing but after I wacked him he stopped so just made me look stupid and not him.

I free lunged him and he gave both leads so I figured it would be ok to push him to get the left lead under saddle.

I did a lot of walking trotting stuff to get him loose first, and some backing, turn on haunches, and lateral movement type stuff. He was good and got better at it. He did give the left lead, but only once. Still good enough for me, and as he went it got better. He only made it for a few laps, then I took him over a pole and he broke and I couldn't get it again.

I'm pretty sure he has a rib out or cracked rib or something, its not in his back, it's only on one side and it's not in his stifle or hip area either. It's just in front of his hip area where the last ribs are. I poked around and found a general sore area so I put some liniment on it and he really liked that.

I think it's possible he bucked it out of place, or got kicked by one of the horses he's been going out with. Still, it was better after riding so I'm going to keep at it this week.

I think this week or soon he will be out in pasture again full time, but this pasture is different from the past, and if it isn't working out he can come back in a stall. Hope all goes well and he's fine out there and stays healthy.
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