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post #1141 of 2099 Old 10-29-2018, 09:16 PM
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Happy birthday Romeo!!! He looks good for his age and especially for just coming through winter! I hope you gave him a special rub down and treat. He is very near to my age, which is quite shocking when you look at his birthday.

Here a horse is one on Jan. 1 no matter what. Born Dec. 1st? A yearling in January. Is it the same there in that they become an official yearling in October, or is it the following year? If it is the following I like Australiaís rules better. (This said I donít know racing rules at all, so maybe it is different than the organizations Iíve shown at.)
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Hello, @Knave ! In Australia, with STBs and TBs anyway, a yearling is an official yearling when it is 12 months old at the official horses' birthday. If the horse is born in October, say, it will be an official yearling the following September 1. If the foal is born early, say July 30, it is deemed a yearling when it is barely a month old, which is stupid and results in some people hiding premature racehorse foals in the back paddock for a couple of weeks until September 1. Of course you have to draw the line somewhere, or there will be unfair advantage.

In reality, of course, a yearling isn't a yearling until it is actually 12 months old.

My first horse, the French Trotter mare, was born in 1969 and was therefore older than me! Would have been the same with you and Darcell, and actually by a bigger margin too! Isn't it funny to be born last century? I'm sure your girls can make some jokes about that.

In Western Australia, our winters are comparatively mild and are our actual growing season, and the horses are in rugs when there is rain with wind and/or cold - Romeo more often because he's old and likes his warm "bedclothes"! It's the summer droughts I worry about with him, but he gets to come into the garden for green pick from the irrigated lawn - he can't process dry grass or hay anymore. Thankfully we have enough lawn / semi-pasture in the irrigated house surrounds for him. Pickings in the paddocks can be pretty dry in February and March especially.

Romeo spent this morning in the garden with me, eating his "porridge" and listening to Cape Breton fiddle music coming through the open living room window, while I put pea straw on more vegie beds, and prepared a few more spots for planting. I got my first zucchini transplanted, and it looks so innocent just with its seedling leaves and two first true leaves, but we all know they become monsters! This one is a Blanco Lungo Cylindrico, a very light green fruit with cream markings. I've got Black Beauty in the mini-greenhouse, but it's not ready to plant out yet. I also planted out a few Lebanese cucumbers. Tomatoes after tea break - I'm on my second mug, and we drink our tea out of huge soup mugs, you get more hydrated that way and it's less work!

It's funny how animals are drawn to music. The horses generally like Celtic and Cape Breton fiddle music, as do the donkeys - it's often cheerful and crazy and upbeat and makes you want to tap your toes - and the balance is usually eerie laments. When I put the music on this morning, the new donkeys came running and queued up at the garden gate - this is the native garden near the house, not the food garden, where only Romeo is allowed! So I let them in - I've got the lower tier pegged off for animals to graze under supervision - Nelly and Benjamin, with a highly interested Don Quixote in tow. I think he's got a crush on pretty Nelly! Mary Lou and Sparkle were lying down snoozing in the sun in the paddock.

This is one of the tracks that was playing this morning:


Our cows seem to come listen when there is piano music to be heard.

Romeo got a nice thorough grooming this morning after his breakfast, which he really enjoyed. A lot of his remaining coat shed out. He most probably has mild PPID as well, but probably has for years, and no symptoms except uneven shedding (he doesn't get very woolly), and really too old for us to consider treating him with the medicine I'm trialling Sunsmart on. He's OK, and his teeth are the biggest challenge. At that advanced age, I think horses are "DNR" - support them physically, but no major medical / pharmaceutical interventions. (And if I live to his equivalent age, which is late 90s, I wouldn't want major interventions either. Happy or dead, I think.)

My hands were too dirty to take photos of my garden work, but I will post some photos soon. Back out there in a minute, when the washing is on the line.

Have you had any frosts yet? Is there anything you can grow in a greenhouse over winter?

Hope you have a restful night!

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I usually play music on my phone while I ride at home. I call it my radio. ;)

Yes, itís been freezing for around a month Iíd say. This morning, when I go to catch Cash for his first work day it should still be probably 20*F. It is 20 now though, so it might be a couple degrees colder. It is supposed to start turning into winter now.

I donít have a greenhouse. My aunt has a spectacular one though, and it is temperature regulated. She grows things year round, but she is the only person I know capable of such a feat.

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I am not sure if she is registered since she doesnít have papers but sheís definitely an STB, as sometimes sheíll pace around in the pasture and had to be trained to canter. My riding instructor owned her previously and thought she would be a good match for me. The trails around here are pretty nice, there are a lot of them so endurance and eventing are pretty popular. I donít normally take her out on trail because she is a bit nervous around things that blow in the wind. Here is an older picture of us when I first got her.E4803981-DCB1-424A-9B31-695149B50408.jpg
This photo was taken in one of my lessons when she belonged to my instructor .
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Romeo. He does look good for his age.

It was minus 3 here yesterday morning and everything was white with a thick mist hanging over the land and between the trees. It took forever to clear the windscreen of the car and heat it to a point where I stopped shivering.

My gardenís looking pretty miserable as everything is dying back. My greenhouse blew flat in a spring storm so Iíve been searching for a new one in my local DIY shops and garden centres but they look just as flimsy. I decided to approach a local Joiner who made my last two sheds to see if he would create a wooden framed one with plenty of windows. Iím hoping to have it for the Spring.

Hay fever is horrible. My cure was age and a different location. In the past few years I seemed to have grown out of it, with one minor blip, which was last year. Iím not sure what was in the fields around the house to cause a flare-up. Anytime I head away from farmland, trees and gardens towards the north and the moors and mountains it disappears. I remember people commenting on the difference it was so noticeable. I just wish I could recreate the affect in a pill!
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@Willrider , that's a lovely mare you have there, and you look well matched to each other! How long have you had your mare? What's the tallest jump you two have jumped, and did it feel like a skyscraper? Have you ever jumped bareback? ...you're in the presence of seriously crazy horsepeople on this journal - at least one of us ( @Knave ) can even do spectacular circus tricks on horseback! - another ( @knightrider ) rode her horse when she had bone fractures and was supposed to be resting, naughty naughty, and is ace at making spectacular costumes and teaching her horses tricks - another ( @bsms ) started riding at midlife and immediately chose a super-hot Arabian mare as their starting horse - another ( @gottatrot ) is working with a challenging but fun OTTB and riding on the beach all the time (but not exclusively) and has written two e-books on her two Arabian horses - another ( @egrogan ) has gone from a lively Morgan to a chess-playing Morgan relatively recently and is reporting shenanigans on a regular basis - another ( @frlsgirl ) is doing dressage on a Morgan - one of us ( @Caledonian ) is from Scotland and we're getting to know her better - another ( @waresbear ) is from Canada and very multi-discipline - another ( @Hondo ) is a venerable human elder who is always doing spectacular DIY and is perfecting perambulation on horseback - several others ( @Dragoon , @SwissMiss , @AnitaAnne ) have interesting horses with opinions of their own (and don't we all ) ... and there is even a mystery person who takes advanced dressage lessons on Spanish horses, I wonder who that could be... and several others besides... Me, I've been known on several occasions to overshoot when mounting bareback and hit the ground on the other side... It's a crazy and loveable bunch of very nice people here!


About the STB: My birth family bred STBs and none ever had to be taught to canter - although this is a common misconception about the breed. Some individual horses may have problems cantering due to physical issues, but it's not characteristic of the STB breed. All the ones I've seen grow up cantered in the paddock from foalhood. Often if a STB apparently doesn't want to canter after a harness career, it's because their particular trainer didn't let them during training, so the horse thinks that when it is working with humans it's not supposed to canter.

Not all STBs can pace (there are trotting lines and trotting races, pacing lines and pacing races, and many STBs are "ambidextrous" - can do both very very well), and there are other breeds of horses throughout the world that pace - including the Icelandic, and various gaited horse breeds in America.

To positively identify a horse as STB, look for a freeze brand or lip tattoo. All registered STBs in Australia and NZ are freeze branded as foals, and many US STBs are as well (right side of neck). American Standardbreds initially had tattoos on the inside of their upper lip for identification purposes - as do some other breeds, but if your horse has a freeze brand or lip tattoo, you can work out if it's the STB brand, and if yes, trace her heritage here:

https://pathway.ustrotting.com/search/index.cfm?

(Starting with 2019 foals, STBs in the US will now be microchipped instead of freeze branded or tattooed.)

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@Caledonian , that sounds a bit chilly, but very very picturesque - thank goodness for thermal underwear! It can get cold in Australia too - one time when I was working in Victoria, there was a morning where the refrigerator temperature was warmer than the room! My mini-greenhouse blew over several times in storms, so now I've tied it to the rafters at the top, and to a post by its feet, and I take all the trays and pots indoors when there is another storm forecast. It sounds like an excellent idea to have a very sturdy one made up for you. - Romeo says thank you and sends his venerable regards (and that we're all looking good for our age ).

When I lived in seaside Albany, hayfever was but a horrid memory. But then in 2010 we had the bright idea to move onto a farm! I'm feeling a bit better today because my DH came home with antihistamines that do work better, but make you very drowsy, so you take them at night, which also means you are less likely to wake with a clogged head in the wee hours. So I nearly slept through for once, and would have slept till mid-morning I think, to make up for recent nights, if it hadn't been for the alarm clock... tomorrow (Brett's day off) no alarm clock, and we're sleeping in. This evening, we are watching Dr Who... I think the female Dr Who is working out great! You Scottish have had so many notable people in this series...

Do you have White Christmases where you are? @egrogan is heading for one for sure.

@Knave , is the snowfall reliable enough to have White Christmases as a standard thing where you live? And have your horses shown any preferences for particular styles of music? Do they like you to sing when riding? ...best wishes to all at your house!

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@SueC you always shock me with your kindness and ability to bring everyone up. :)

Yes, most of the time Christmas is white. Occasionally Halloween also is, so itís exciting for children dressing up when it has yet to snow.

My horses seem to like most music. They are used to a large variety. Sometimes I sing to them. Iíll really get into it too, but I am not the best at singing and I think even they are aware of that. Lol. Do yours like you to sing to them?
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It's a good thing horses are so forgiving, @Knave ! I find it quite hard to sing on a horse because it's hard to sing in a sitting position (and even harder when posting! ). It's not a gala performance for sure! But on a nice long trail, sometimes I do when we're just walking along, and the horses' ears start to scan around, which is funny. I think they like it, especially low notes. Sometimes I've sung "99 Bottles of Beer" when in a dodgy situation with an inexperienced or new-to-me horse, to stop either of us getting nervous! ( @egrogan , something else you can try with Fizz if you haven't already!) It gives the horse another variable to think about, and because singing is sort of meditative, it counters nervousness in the human, which means the horse doesn't catch the human's etc.

I was glad to read of Cashman's first day at work - that went so well!
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I have tried to use it to counter nerves myself! Sometimes it works, but sometimes it almost gets me more worked up. I usually try in any case.

One day, when he first came, I was singing to Zeus. I was just happy, and really giving a major performance leading him to his corral. Imagine terrible singing accompanied by just awful dancing. Major performance going on... so much I even dropped to my knees in front of the mildly amused little round colt. Suddenly there was a look on his little yellow face, and I followed his gaze to see my husband and father! Shocked embarrassment and another memory to remind me to not get so involved with my headphones on. Lol
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