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post #2101 of 2372 Old 07-20-2019, 08:34 AM Thread Starter
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MIDDLETON BEACH / EMU POINT WALK PHOTOS

Here are some nice photos of our town beach in Albany, which we like to walk on after Brett's work on my town days. This one was for his birthday, on the day, which was nice. The following day we climbed in the Stirlings and at one point I thought there was no way I was getting up that mountaintop because I was leaden and lacking in fitness with recent influenza and the stress fracture in May, but then the endorphins kicked in and things were OK. We've got great photos, but not yet on Flickr, so I'll do that next time. I'm now fitter, with a higher discomfort tolerance!

When we do the Middleton Beach / Emu Point loop, we get onto Middleton beach in the middle, where dogs are allowed but there aren't too many other people:



As you can see, Brett had the dog while I took the snap! The sand is very white because eroded from granite. This is the view northeast from the beach, at Mt Martin Botanical Reserve (on the peninsula), which has a nice 4-hour walk we're planning to do again soon:



Now two of the irrepressible Jess chasing waves:





The next photo is from Emu Point, where 25 years ago they constructed a groyne I was one of the people to protest against, because I knew what it was going to do the the beach which used to go all the way along the shore. The protests were ignored and the groyne was built, and the sand eroded away along the eastern part of the beach, and the sea started cutting into the shore further up as well, so they had to build rock walls at great expense, and they keep having to shift sand around - just like we knew would happen, from countless other examples around Australia. How we wish the decision-makers had paid attention in their high school Geography lessons; the community is paying for this kind of stupidity with increased rates (up 30% in a couple of years) while the earthmoving profits from the initial groyne and subsequent walls etc go to mates of the council, presumably with kickbacks. They should pay for their stupid decisions out of their own pockets, instead of the people who didn't want it having to pay...



I remember the beach that used to be there... and the money that was still in our pockets then...

This is the entrance to Oyster Harbour, with Mount Martin Botanical Reserve on the other side:



A cargo ship in King George Sound; behind it is Isthmus Hill, leading out to Limestone Head on the left, and Bald Head out of view - that is one of the most magnificent coastal walks in the world, a half-day hike starting from the right-hand side of the picture and going up and over the hill and along the ridge track of the peninsula, out of sight off the photo...and one we've done a lot before moving to the farm, that we are going to catch up with again this year.



A couple of photos from the Emu Point Cafť - we thought we'd be civilised and catch a drink on Brett's birthday...





That's a Ginger Zinger Brett is drinking. The owner of the place, Kate Marwick, was on the Year 9 Ecology excursion I organised in 2000, out to Fisheries Beach, is now in her 30s, and is taking lots of ecological initiatives in her business, like no plastic anything - compostable packaging, paper straws, all sorts of environmentally friendly ways of doing things. Go Kate!

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A few shots of Oyster Harbour, its beach and marina:





I just love eucalyptus trees - look at the shapes and colours of those branches... Jess and me, on the beach...





Brett said to me that I've been his best birthday present every year for 12 years now!

We went along a street through the little suburb on the point, to get back to the other side, and the ocean beach there, where we had started. This is the view south towards Albany townsite:



And this is a boat floating off Point Possession, on an isthmus that divides the King George Sound from the Princess Royal Harbour in the west (not on the photo):



Point Possession has - you guessed it - a wonderful walk too, which I've featured on this journal before. Behind that is Stony Hill, an amazing lookout point to the Southern Ocean on the other side of the Torndirrup Peninsula, which divides the Southern Ocean off King George Sound (and has Stony Hill, Isthmus Hill, Limestone Head etc on it).

So, that was a lovely walk, and I took the camera this time to take some snaps!

I've also been riding; managed to get a 4km on-farm tracks ride in yesterday before the next cold front hit; no riding today as everything was wintry and wet!

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I'll skip showing the pictures to my wife. She would want us to emigrate. Although Australian might not want us and if IIRC (from a visit to Darwin around 87), Australia has high taxes.

I grew up in Tucson and it is the closest city to us. Tucson's city council always has great ideas too, all of which are supposed to "revitalize" the downtown at great expense and which always seem to "revitalize" certain local businesses while the project never gets finished. Then the city council comes up with another project which sounds a lot like the one that just failed.

The downtown area had more vibrant businesses 50 years ago. It was cleaner then, too. With more parking. Hmmmmmm. Of course, we had about 1/4 as many people then. But don't worry because all of Arizona is committed to "GROWTH!"

Because that will improve the tax base. Or it will once those of us living here have paid for the schools, the roads, big tax breaks for the companies....feeling cynical first thing in the morning. Sorry. More coffee and a ride may improve my humor. But probably not my cynicism.

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That is beautiful!! You guys always look so happy in your pictures. In turn it makes me happy!

Also, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRETT! See that? I yelled it.
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I'll skip showing the pictures to my wife. She would want us to emigrate. Although Australian might not want us and if IIRC (from a visit to Darwin around 87), Australia has high taxes.
You can see why both of us fell in love with this part of Australia, which by the way, isn't a particularly trendy part! For trendy, the West Coast and particularly Margaret River is where people go to be seen, and thankfully, much of the population misses the South Coast. The tendency for it to rain on long weekends and on school holidays helps! It actually does seem to do just that whenever the tourists get here, and then people say, "It always rains in Albany!" even though the annual rainfall is actually lower here than in the Perth hills...

Our taxes are possibly higher than yours, but so much lower than Germany's... and yet Germany and Scandinavia, for all their higher taxes, consistently show up as having better population happiness indices than Australia and the US. As does India, despite all the poverty... Population happiness isn't something economists study, but should - looking at population happiness is far more important than looking at GDP and material living standards (the indices for which are strange indeed)...

I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but in Australia, there is so much more of people chasing status symbols and keeping up with the Joneses than in Europe; and there's less satisfaction at just doing something well for the sake of it, or educating yourself. Traditional German businesses tend to genuinely pride themselves in making quality products that will last, and in having many employees for life. In Australia, it's more about turnover and how much stuff you can shift, and making things look better than they actually are.

How does Spain compare to the US in those sorts of things, @Spanish Rider ? I've not lived in Spain... in Italy, there was more community spirit and general gregariousness than in Australia, for instance. People made time for each other more; you didn't not know your neighbours, whereas here, I've lived in so many places around the country where neighbourhoods are anonymous things and people don't get to know each other, and at most say "hello" when going past each other, not even knowing each other's names...


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I grew up in Tucson and it is the closest city to us. Tucson's city council always has great ideas too, all of which are supposed to "revitalize" the downtown at great expense and which always seem to "revitalize" certain local businesses while the project never gets finished. Then the city council comes up with another project which sounds a lot like the one that just failed.
This sounds a lot like what happens here...

Random question: Have you ever seen ZZ Top live? Aren't they from that neck of the woods?


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The downtown area had more vibrant businesses 50 years ago. It was cleaner then, too. With more parking. Hmmmmmm. Of course, we had about 1/4 as many people then. But don't worry because all of Arizona is committed to "GROWTH!"

Because that will improve the tax base. Or it will once those of us living here have paid for the schools, the roads, big tax breaks for the companies....feeling cynical first thing in the morning. Sorry. More coffee and a ride may improve my humor. But probably not my cynicism.
Ah yes, we've highly cultivated our cynicism in this household. If you cultivate it enough, you get a fair bit of gallows humour! Welcome to the Titanic, where the main activity is the rearrangement of the deckchairs.

I'm trying to work out how we stay sane, given the realistic lens with which we view the world. If we're sane... perhaps we just have an enjoyable sort of insanity here. Humour helps. Good literature. Spending lots of time in natural landscapes where things aren't particularly broken, and follow actual logical laws. Nice companion animals and some good friends. Good food. Jumping up and down like kangaroos at times...

The growth thing gets us too, because it's essentially cancer. They make is sound so good, but "growth" creates temporary increases in available money to some people, at the expense of destroying the resource base. What we really need is steady state economies, not growth economies. With a standard of living not determined solely by money, but by what makes life worth living, once you have basic shelter, clothing, transport, food (which you can grow a lot of even in your own backyard to increase your quality of nutrition and life in general - unless you live in a desert, I suppose - anyone grow food in their backyards where you live, @bsms ?).

Anyway, ho hum. So, from one cynical household to another, have you read Northanger Abbey yet? It's Jane Austen in her 40s, just prior to her early demise, and at the very peak of wit and observation! I'm halfway through; Brett finished it; we both agree it's the funniest thing we've read in years... the observations on human nature... and... you can get all this for free these days for your laptop/e-reader/whatever, because it's out of copyright. We get our classics from here these days:

https://www.gutenberg.org/

Oh, and Brett recommends Yes, Prime Minister - from one cynical male to another. It's not out of copyright yet, though!


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That is beautiful!! You guys always look so happy in your pictures. In turn it makes me happy!

Also, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRETT! See that? I yelled it.
, @Knave , we had to use earplugs!

Thank you so much, I hope you're having a lovely weekend!

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I'm too out of touch with average America to even know what it means. I'm not sure it exists. We tend to seek out like-minded people to be friends with, as everyone does. People who live in big cities, for example, are different than those living in rural areas. For example, in politics:

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"It is well known that Trump won the vast majority of U.S. countiesó2,649 to Hillary Clintonís 503...But the majority of his counties have small populations, even if they are geographically larger than average. By TIMEís calculations, Trumpís territory accounts for 75.6% of the nationís land mass, not including water. And yet, he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes, since Clinton won most high-population, urban areas that take up less space but house many more people."


https://time.com/4780991/donald-trum...p-white-house/
Crime is primarily an urban issue, and even within a given city, it is often involves 10-15% of a given large city. And even in my less populated area, many of those I associate with are my coreligionists (baptists), who hear frequent sermons on rejecting wealth and status as measures of a successful life. I also own horses, which almost require one to prefer values other than the acquisition of wealth! Horses have a way of siphoning off available cash...

I've never seen the most popular TV shows in America. I don't watch the Super Bowl and usually don't know who is playing. Or care. I'll see a list of utterly fascinating entertainers and realize I don't recognize a single name. I'm retired so I can give my own version of "The Middle Hoof Salute" to popular America!

I was born & raised in America. Spent two and a half decades in the military. Right now, like a lot of older folks I know, I feel like an expatriate living in a foreign country. Our neighborhood has a reasonable number of kids. Want to guess how many times I've seen one riding a bike? Other than our grandkids? Maybe twice a year! There are some neighborhood kids somewhere who have built some bike ramps in the desert, so initiative and the outdoors are not TOTALLY dead. But darn close to it. On any given evening, our streets look like a ghost town.

I know nothing about modern America. It is predominately an urban culture now, more interested in streaming than moving. Heck, teens don't even copulate at the rate they used to. Talk about addiction to the Internet!

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Seriously @bsms you just made me laugh. The single benefit of raising kids in an online world.

I liked your post Sue. It gives me a lot to think about. I feel the culture shift bsms feels, even in my rural town. Others donít notice it much, occasionally someone will admit to the change. It is some sort of pretentiousness. Everyone wanting to be better than everyone else... I liked it better when everyone was broke and the judgmental atmosphere didnít seem to exist.

We are not yet part of the other shift that has taken over the country, which I am grateful for. I donít know what Iíd call that.
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My Mom used to talk about going to school barefoot. Since everyone else did, no one felt poor. My Dad was one of the few Colonels in the Air Force, even back then, who hadn't been to college. They had formal parties they had to go to because of his work. Apart from that, parties were spaghetti and beer (with plenty of both) at home. Their major form of recreation was bowling - separate teams because of my Dad's competitiveness. I gather he was unbearable to play with on a team, but after the game they would both joke about it. A lot of Great Depression kids grew up wanting status symbols. I guess my folks grew up in families with different values and passed those values on to my sister and I.

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I quite agree. I think a big factor in why I dont feel at home in the US anymore is people. Most of my friends are all over 40, so we get along but I cant relate hardly at all to most people in my age grou (around 30). If it makes anyone feel better in Denmark they make fun of the radical hollywood elite types a lot. But here is more rural and I think people are more down to earth and work together. It's a small country, so being practical and realistic, as well as grounded is good. Being entitled, thinking the world owes you something is not the Danish way. I think there is more emphasis on self responsibility and excuses arent tolerated in the same way. I feel like in the US people use a lot of excuses vs here people use explanations to understand and become better from. I think the education here requires more active thinking and innovation, rather than repeat and regurgitate. I feel a big issue in the US is people are trained to memorize but not trained to think. Accept the doctrine preached and dont ask questions. Vs in Denmark people are taught to ask the tough questions and be fair and just. STRONG sense of fairness and justice here. It's a different mind set and culture, I favor it strongly. I think lies, self promotion, expecting special treatment and talking out the @ss isnt catered to here like it is in the US, maybe Australia? I dont know, I havent been but I think Germany also had a strong sense of people are responsible for themselves and their actions. If someone is stupid, then they are stupid and they arent catered to for being stupid. If that makes sense? It's hard to explain.

I mean Im pretty outlandish, I swear a lot, say very inappropriate things, some of the older generation could call me rude. I also call out inconsistencies and dont just go with the system or believe something because Im told to. I always challenge and question but respectfully. But my Grandfather is kinda the same. He's Danish and doesnt drink or swear but he thinks for himself. He's honorable and good but not a traditionalist for traditions sake but what is right and makes sense.

Also note in Scandinavia the tax dollars go where they are promised, the politicians dont stuff it into their pockets or friends businesses. That sort of corruption isnt tolerated. I think Scandinavians have a strong sense of justice and fairness, if the government was playing the people they would do something about it. The viking blood is alive and well here, even as nice and lovely as people seem. People also really dont like foreigners, unless they assimilate and are respectful or the culture. Denmark is a small country, so they allow few immigrants and do not want to go the way of Sweden.
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