People at my work are told to stay home if they have a cough. If that clears up, they can come back to work. We've had several so far that have been off and come back already.
This sounds like a sensible policy to me. I read somewhere that if everyone stayed home when they have coughs and sniffles, until they stopped having those, that this would actually vastly reduce the amount of sick leave taken overall, because it would stop many other people from getting ill. It would also mean that people on sick leave would be home with relatively minor symptoms, and be able to nip their illnesses in the bud, and be able to get some things around the house done, as opposed to the current situation where people only take sick leave once they become truly debilitated - and have meanwhile infected a dozen other people because they didn't stay home.
...I believe this toilet paper hoarding is global.
Monkey see, monkey do?
I understand people think they might be in quarantine. However, buying enough toilet paper for a year is ridiculous.
Yeah, there's a difference between having a month's worth of supplies in case you have to quarantine, and a year's worth! And yeah, resources need to be shared fairly, and not be bought up by a bunch of opportunists / speculators / profiteers / "me-first" people who don't care one bit about others in their community...
I saw a great piece somewhere about how "love thy neighbour" is a far better response to COVID-19 than hoarding toilet paper.
And a very funny comment from someone on my music forum, "Why do they need all this toilet paper, when their pants are full already!"
Personally I think the virus is serious, but not as deadly as many diseases. We still haven't been able to test those who are not seriously sick here in the U.S., but of those who are we are getting around a 1.5% mortality rate. I think everyone being hygienic for once will help the flu and other respiratory viruses spread less, which is good.
Yeah, I'm hoping some of the skills being learnt by the public in this pandemic won't be forgotten about for "ordinary" cold and flu. It's funny how people are reckless with the devil they know, versus the devil they don't. But the devil you know is more likely to kill you than the devil you don't, in part because of that attitude.
It bothers me to see photos of patients in other countries isolated on cots without IVs or oxygen nearby and nothing sitting near them to drink. Either the people are not sick enough to need hospital care, in which case you are only going to create a problem by putting them in this scenario, or else if they really do need fluids and oxygen, they are going to get much more sick and are likely to die. I am not sure how they are organizing things but I am certain here we would have less trained people going around making sure everyone had their head raised up on pillows so they could breathe, kleenex and water next to the patient, curtains and commodes, the basics.
It makes me wonder if fear of contagious illnesses can make things much worse for people who contract them.
Yes, the idea of volunteers caring for the less acutely ill makes a lot of sense, as long as they can be sufficiently protected from contracting the virus themselves.
They say health care workers are taking this less seriously, but that's mainly because we understand how many diseases spread and it's not magical or anything, just science. Like you're not going to get the virus from eating take out food, and handling your food with gloves is silly.
Yeah, agreed. I was thinking the other day, "Well, I'm almost certainly going to get COVID-19 eventually, just as I got H1N1 eventually (and that wasn't a severe illness for me, although it killed others), and if I am going to get it, I'd prefer to get it either early, so I can be over it early, and hopefully have at least medium-term immunity to it - or to get it late, but not to get it in the thick of it when many people are ill with it."
But I'm not exposing myself on purpose, that's for sure.
The virus isn't going to spread from a person carrying it into their surroundings unless they wipe their nose or cough into their hand and touch surfaces. So the "silent carrier" is only a factor if the person has a habit of open mouth coughing when not sick or else wiping their body fluids on things around them. Children behave that way.
It's not oozing out of their pores or anything. It is also somewhat difficult to catch droplet viruses from surfaces, which is why normally for things like the flu we only wear masks around patients but not gowns and gloves. My main precaution is to never touch my mucous membranes unless I am in the safety of my own home and have already washed my hands, and I always maintain distance from people who are coughing or sneezing.
I pretty much do what you describe. Something else I've always done is, say I'm in a shopping centre and someone coughs or sneezes near me. I immediately start breathing out slowly through my nose while rapidly walking away from the vicinity of the cough / sneeze (=aerosol).
The last time I had cold, and flu, I caught them off Brett, who is occupationally exposed (usually gets one bug a year), because I continued to sleep in the same room. I did that because prior to the pretty severe illness we had last year (bedridden with debilitating "ordinary" flu for a fortnight; caught a follow-on cold later which turned into bronchitis), cold and flu were generally minor illnesses for me, and I kind of felt like it's actually not a good idea to always avoid getting them, because the immune system needs to continue to be challenged by these things in order to avoid going down hard (is my thinking, what do you think?).
Anyway, since that experience last year, I'm very keen to avoid a repeat, and especially with this new virus. So, I won't be sleeping in the same bed anymore when the next bug comes home.
But you know what has me flummoxed? ...how the heck did I get this sore throat (which is improving), given that I have only been out in a public place with people in it once in the past fortnight? I had it just before Brett had it, so presumably I caught it first, or we both caught it off the same source... which was a grocery shopping together in Albany just over a week ago. Unless this stuff was hanging in the air as an aerosol, without me hearing a sneeze or cough in the vicinity, it probably came off a surface... but I've been vigilant about not touching my face etc while out in public places, until I've washed my hands back home. Do we have to start wiping down door handles and car keys etc? I wouldn't normally bother for mild illnesses like this, but I see this as "one that got through" while I'm rehearsing for avoiding COVID-19...
By the way, I'm not at this stage using hand disinfectants while in public places. I'm just washing properly when I get home...
Hopefully old people are not too afraid to go out and becoming ill from not eating or not having basic care supplies.
Yeah, it's a difficult one, because healthy eating and exercise are so important for immunity, and also for general health - and it would be ironic to come down with another illness as a result
of trying to avoid COVID-19...
Thanks for your thoughts on all this, in advance as well - always valued!