, I really like your journal.
I think we all tend to relate the breeds to the horses we personally knew. Therefore, you assume stock horses are pretty dull, but many of the little cutters I know have been exceptionally hot...
Myself, I would choose and Arab for endurance, a qh to cut and run barrels, a tb to jump. Thatís not saying other breeds cannot be successful at these things, but I just think that you are betting with the odds in your favor when you make these choices.
for this perspective. I appreciate very much the "truth tellers" on this forum. It helps me be open minded and more grounded. Something your post makes me realize is that a lot of Arabs and TBs I have been around have been from rehoming and rescue type situations. Which horses end up there but the more difficult ones?
Also, the Arab show barn I boarded at had an english show and halter perspective. Which is different from pleasure, ranch and even endurance bloodlines usually. The Morgans and Saddlebreds at that barn were also bred for those things.
I'm thinking about this bias I have, which is sort of "protective" toward newer people. It seems to be based on the disillusionment I had after beginning with Amore, and at the time I had been reading John Lyons books. He was adamant that it is not the breed, it is the training, illustrated by his Appaloosa as a breed with a bad rap. So when Amore turned out to be super reactive and difficult, and quite impossible to turn into a jumper or dressage horse, this idea went out the window.
I have seen hot stock horses at gaming events and such, but considered them outliers because of the percentages I'd experienced. 90% of the trail riders around here or more have very mellow stock horses. Most avoid Arabs, so if they are all selecting horses for temperament, they would not be choosing Arabs anyway.
My takeaway from this is that every horse should be evaluated as an individual. I may still retain a bias going in that an Arab or TB is going to have the potential to be more energetic.
That being said, I have known only one Fjord, and she was also quite the individual.
I am big on "mutually acceptable compromises", but I also believe in boundaries. I don't have a lot of boundaries. And within those boundaries, I give my horse a lot of freedom and choices. At the same time, one sometimes needs to go toe to hoof with the horse and make it clear compromise works both ways...
...Needs lots of tools. And need to let others use them. The proof will be in the pudding. Let the results score the method...
...Bit of a rant. I get really tired of the dominance approach to riding, but I get equally frustrated with the unicorn approach. I'm not an Elf-Lord of Middle Earth! Neither am I a bully. I want to ride based on mutually acceptable compromise. I don't get 100% of what I want. My horse doesn't get 100% of what he wants. I don't bully him. He doesn't bully me.
I saw ZERO bullying in the video. ZERO brutality. But I don't know how one makes compromises with the horse unless the horse believes he needs to find SOME solution acceptable to the rider. Without that, a strong-willed horse will walk all over you.
Good words, and thanks for saying I didn't seem too rough on Hero. It seems to me that with everything in life there is a balance. Sometimes we can be very positive and sometimes not so much. I just can't figure out how a person could train with purely positive reinforcement, because at some point you do have to say "this is bad
But I had a lot of spankings as a child, and I believe they were very necessary. You can see how strong willed I am. My siblings rarely ever needed spankings. I can be motivated by positive reinforcement, but sometimes I had to have it proven to me that I could be stopped from doing what I wanted. I remember clearly thinking as a child that someone better make
Something occurred to me this morning. I believe you act like the horse has had no past, but also you think about and consider what their past was. I think
is right about OTTBs missing out on being pets and feeling positive about humans early on. I'm still getting Hero to see grooming as something other than an assault. I believe there must have been some conflict with his behaviors at the track, because they ran him at 5, which seems so late.
But I was thinking today that the rescue said Hero had been returned three times. Plus who put him in there in the first place? So maybe four people before me have tried to use him for something. The rescue lady was looking for people experienced with TBs when she approached Nala's rider at a show. Her idea was that people were expecting Hero to be trained, rather than green so were disappointed and returning him.
I don't think it was simply that Hero was green (although he was, but I think that was only because people ran into trouble), and I heard that at least one of the people who had him was a trainer. But here we are, in a heavily western riding area, and I was thinking this morning that most people who would try a TB around here would be gamers. So I am wondering now if his inappropriately strong response to the barrels yesterday was just because they were barrels
. Chances are that one of those people was trying to teach him patterns, and of course he had major stifle issues back then and tight circles are one of the worst things with that.
I was thinking he just didn't want to run around since he'd had a little grass and Amore was eating, and it wasn't fair. Next time I'll try laying down the barrels or going around something different, and see what he thinks.