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post #11 of 35 Old 04-09-2015, 10:39 PM
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I almost died laughing just now!!! Roman, you're an artist!
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post #12 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 12:49 AM
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I don't know if this goes for all bitless bridles, but it gave our little welsh pony got a sore poll sadly :c ... It was awesome while it lasted though
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post #13 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 03:55 AM
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My bitless bridles work well for my horses and so far have had no issues with control. If someone asks about them I am happy to share my experience on bitless bridles but would never shove it down someones throat. Nor would I get on someones case for using a bit. I may go back to bits at some stage or not but my horses and my decision.
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post #14 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 04:19 AM
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I literally have a thread about this lol! but they suddenly went from bitless bridles and bridles to how drop nosebands are cruel
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post #15 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 09:00 AM
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meh, I wouldn't worry about it; after all, what does the conceited opinion of someone who, since they don't' ride means nothing, really mean? Nothing. And the fact that they are so wiling to throw it about, with no actual empirical evidence and experience to back it up suggests to me that they are a little, perhaps, arrogant. Add to that that for every "bits are cruel/bittless is better" person you can find you will find someone that says the exact opposite with as much misguide conviction.

I hackamore (traditional, i.e. bosal etc.) trained and ridden horses for years and can assure you that if you know what you are doing with it you can indeed train a horse to work with just as much precision and finesse with that sort of equipment as you can with a bit but they are not really any less cruel or harsh or better than a bit. Tell this person to ****** off, they don't know what they are on about.
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post #16 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 09:39 AM
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Hi All!

Unsolicited advice kinda comes along with horse ownership; I actually had an old cowboy tell me that Oily's Dressage saddle was inadequate for trail riding. "Really?!? Glad you told me that, guess we've just been lucky the last few years."

Alas, there is a lot of discrimination, involving both tack, and appearence. (And breed, but that's something for another thread.) In this part of the world, it is fashionable to dress like a cowboy when out for a ride; hat, boots, fringed chaps, a colorful bandanna, maybe even a larriet on the saddle horn. YeeHaw. One fellow I know even insists on strapping his six-shooter to his hip. All this for a walk in the park, but I guess ya never know when you might need to out-gun an errant tourist or somethin' :-) Funny thing is that the nearest most of these people ever get to a bovine is at the grocery store. What Ever.

I will comment that The Big Boy goes in a Dr. Cooks bridle. It took all of 15 minutes in the round pen to introduce it to him, and we've used it ever since. We _like_ it. But please don't try to tell us that it is somehow inadequate, we know better, and will simply lump you in with the original subjects of this thread.

ByeBye! Steve (and Oily, modeling his bitlessness while enjoying the Dawson Butte salad bar)

PS: George goes in a mechanical hackamore. His mechanical hackamore and no other, believe me I've tried. Don't know what we're gonna do when it wears out ;-)
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post #17 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 09:56 AM
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[QUOTE=george the mule;7294346]Hi All!

Unsolicited advice kinda comes along with horse ownership; I actually had an old cowboy tell me that Oily's Dressage saddle was inadequate for trail riding. "

This bit reminds me of the crap I listened to for years. When I worked as a ringer (cowboy in Australia), I rode in a wade saddle an a hackamore and while I was out mustering cattle or whatever we were doing I would never end hearing "you can't ride like THAT in the bush!" I'd usually look about and point out that I was indeed doing exactly that as the twit was telling me that it couldn't be done. but they would always come back with the same rubbish as "nah, nah, I mane the REAAAALLLL bush, go up to [wherever] and try it and you'll get killed riding with that bull****". And it never mattered how rough the terrain was or how rough the cattle were, I think you would have to ride a horse through a blackberry bush hedge and it still wouldn't be thick enough bush for them.
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post #18 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 10:01 AM
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Unsolisited advice does come along with horses. While I would not have stopped mucking to listen to a lecture, I would not come down on the person giving it. If that person ever does decide to ride, they will figure it out.
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post #19 of 35 Old 04-10-2015, 10:12 AM
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Technically the term "bit" refers to a curb only. A bosal, side pulls and metal hackamores and those with scissor action are all considered bitless. If any setup like the Dr. Cook or Nurtural squeezes the jaw, the teeth need to be absolutely free of points. I've seen horses, with these types of bridles stick their nose high in the air and go where they please, the rider having no control. It wouldn't have hurt to take some time and explain how you see bitless bridles. She may also have wanted to feel included.

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Originally Posted by Saddlebag View Post
It wouldn't have hurt to take some time and explain how you see bitless bridles. She may also have wanted to feel included.
The thing with this is that I've been riding a whole of 50 hours now. I've taken to it fairly quickly but 50 hrs is 50 hrs. So I really don't feel qualified to have an opinion on bitless vs. bitted one way or the other. Thus I keep my mouth shut.
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