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post #41 of 67 Old 03-25-2016, 06:00 PM
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I have been warned. My instructor said it isn't a matter of if I fall but when I fall.

I hope it happens soon so I get it over with and feel how it feels to fall. Ha !
Well, be prepared, but don't worry about it too much because I've never fallen :) Ok twice: once when I was five and my arthritic, cranky pony reared up on my very first ride and I slid down. Got right back up :) And again when I was 15 or so and my friend wanted to ride my horse bareback but she wanted me to be in front of her. As she tried to pull herself onto my horse, she grabbed onto me for support, but she weighted a lot more than me. Both of us were on the ground laughing within seconds.

The horse I had as a teen had done short races so I used to sprint him along a field by my parents property - BAREBACK. Never fell. He was scared of cars and once, we met a big truck on the road and he jumped headfirst into a very deep ditch, spinning so fast he lost a shoe. I didn't fall. I've been riding our forward Arab, Harley, since last October in an arena as well as out on trails (although not as much as I'd like because of the amount of snow we have) and he's spooked a couple of times, but I didn't fall.

Mind you, I don't jump or attempt any risky moves. No barrel racing for me :) Too old. I may still fall, but while I know most people will fall a few times, that doesn't NECESSARILY apply to all. Maybe you're the 1%. So try not to worry about it.
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post #42 of 67 Old 03-25-2016, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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I have been warned. My instructor said it isn't a matter of if I fall but when I fall.

I hope it happens soon so I get it over with and feel how it feels to fall. Ha !
Well, be prepared, but don't worry about it too much because I've never fallen :) Ok twice: once when I was five and my arthritic, cranky pony reared up on my very first ride and I slid down. Got right back up :) And again when I was 15 or so and my friend wanted to ride my horse bareback but she wanted me to be in front of her. As she tried to pull herself onto my horse, she grabbed onto me for support, but she weighted a lot more than me. Both of us were on the ground laughing within seconds.

The horse I had as a teen had done short races so I used to sprint him along a field by my parents property - BAREBACK. Never fell. He was scared of cars and once, we met a big truck on the road and he jumped headfirst into a very deep ditch, spinning so fast he lost a shoe. I didn't fall. I've been riding our forward Arab, Harley, since last October in an arena as well as out on trails (although not as much as I'd like because of the amount of snow we have) and he's spooked a couple of times, but I didn't fall.

Mind you, I don't jump or attempt any risky moves. No barrel racing for me :) Too old. I may still fall, but while I know most people will fall a few times, that doesn't NECESSARILY apply to all. Maybe you're the 1%. So try not to worry about it.

Ha! This was awesome ! Thanks for sharing!

A few times ready thought I would lose my balance. Tank roots A LOT!!!! Even with my instructor riding him, he surprises her by his strong pull forward. She told me he is testing me and to not let him do that. Many times I compose myself and holds him but a few times he has definitely won! I've felt myself almost fall forward. I've even see my instructor get pulled forward to her surprise of him pulling hard. He was def STRONG enough to flip me forward if I wasn't anticipating it!
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post #43 of 67 Old 03-26-2016, 12:41 AM
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That's awesome. So you've never had any sort of experience prior to almost A year ago? That's great progress, I'd say, in under a year!!

Stories like that give me such encouragement. I want to jump and challenge myself. When my instructor asks "do you think you're ready for...xyz?" Even if I am reluctant or nervous I say yes because if she thinks I am ready to be asked she must see it in me so I never want to be afraid to try.
Absolutely zero experience! I did a trail ride once when I was 12 and that's it haha. I work at a ranch now and am around horses 24/7 so I literally got a crash course in all things horsey. Around me there's stables and barns people can volunteer at too so if you want more time just being around horses and learning about them there's probably a place that you can go help out if you're interested or have the time!
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post #44 of 67 Old 03-26-2016, 03:46 PM
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Ha! This was awesome ! Thanks for sharing!

A few times ready thought I would lose my balance. Tank roots A LOT!!!! Even with my instructor riding him, he surprises her by his strong pull forward. She told me he is testing me and to not let him do that. Many times I compose myself and holds him but a few times he has definitely won! I've felt myself almost fall forward. I've even see my instructor get pulled forward to her surprise of him pulling hard. He was def STRONG enough to flip me forward if I wasn't anticipating it!
Harley does that to my daughter. Or he used to - but not anymore. She was holding him in too tight and he would get frustrated and jerk his head forward. She loosened up on the reins and he doesn't do it at all anymore. It may be different for you though. Having your leg in a good position, your heels down, and sitting back into the saddle will all help a lot in helping to keep you in balance when your horse does this. It keeps your centre of gravity from being too far forward. If you have braided reins, you can stick your thumb in the V notch for a good grip. Of course that may or may not be a good thing :)

Are you releasing pressure in the reins when your horse does what you've asked? Is this something he does all the time, or more with you? Horses sometimes need a little release and new riders are often tense and don't release enough. But your riding instructor can be a better judge of what's going on than me, obviously.
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post #45 of 67 Old 03-26-2016, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah my instructor taught me to do a teepee with my thumbs, is what she called it

Well at first I though tank was being mean to me because of my reins were too loose, he would win and get the reins out of my hands. My instructor told me he is testing me and to be firm and not let him win. So many times I was firm and had great balance while being assertive and winning that battle. So I thought he was testing me but my instructor got on to show me something and he did the same thing with her just as much only she never let him win that battle lol.

She told me it's hard to rare to find a very perfect horse. They're like people and have their on little corks which makes complete sense. I have to be stronger and maintain my center of gravity more so I don't let him win and not be scared of falling forward.
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Quick question. If you're trotting or cantering, how often are you squeezing or nudging your horse to keep it going ? I know the pace of your seat has a lot to do with it but I felt like I had to use an aid almost every few strides. My posting is pretty good, said my instructor, but still had to use my legs every few strides to keep her going today. My posting is far from perfect and I'm sure my rhythm got off a few times. But Is it common for you to use an aid so often to keep them going ? Such as leg or a click of the tongue
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post #47 of 67 Old 03-26-2016, 10:07 PM
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Yeah my instructor taught me to do a teepee with my thumbs, is what she called it

Well at first I though tank was being mean to me because of my reins were too loose, he would win and get the reins out of my hands. My instructor told me he is testing me and to be firm and not let him win. So many times I was firm and had great balance while being assertive and winning that battle. So I thought he was testing me but my instructor got on to show me something and he did the same thing with her just as much only she never let him win that battle lol.

She told me it's hard to rare to find a very perfect horse. They're like people and have their on little corks which makes complete sense. I have to be stronger and maintain my center of gravity more so I don't let him win and not be scared of falling forward.
Sounds like you and your instructor have it all figured out! It's entirely possible he's testing you. But it sounds like he did the same with your instructor so I don't know if her technique is really working. Like I said, just make sure that you reward him when he's being good with a release. It's very subtle - actually, unbelievably subtle in some horses. Sometimes I feel like if I just think of turning right, Harley turns. My daughter says the same thing about him. So a slight release of pressure - not reins completely loose, but a lessening of pressure - becomes a reward.

On the pushing your horse on to continue in the chosen gait, some horses need that, some don't. My horse Harley doesn't, but my daughter's favorite lesson horse does nothing without a constant reminder that it's not nap time, LOL. I think it depends on the horse, but hopefully some more knowledgeable riders and trainers here can give you some advice :)
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post #48 of 67 Old 03-26-2016, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah my instructor taught me to do a teepee with my thumbs, is what she called it

Well at first I though tank was being mean to me because of my reins were too loose, he would win and get the reins out of my hands. My instructor told me he is testing me and to be firm and not let him win. So many times I was firm and had great balance while being assertive and winning that battle. So I thought he was testing me but my instructor got on to show me something and he did the same thing with her just as much only she never let him win that battle lol.

She told me it's hard to rare to find a very perfect horse. They're like people and have their on little corks which makes complete sense. I have to be stronger and maintain my center of gravity more so I don't let him win and not be scared of falling forward.
Sounds like you and your instructor have it all figured out! It's entirely possible he's testing you. But it sounds like he did the same with your instructor so I don't know if her technique is really working. Like I said, just make sure that you reward him when he's being good with a release. It's very subtle - actually, unbelievably subtle in some horses. Sometimes I feel like if I just think of turning right, Harley turns. My daughter says the same thing about him. So a slight release of pressure - not reins completely loose, but a lessening of pressure - becomes a reward.

On the pushing your horse on to continue in the chosen gait, some horses need that, some don't. My horse Harley doesn't, but my daughter's favorite lesson horse does nothing without a constant reminder that it's not nap time, LOL. I think it depends on the horse, but hopefully some more knowledgeable riders and trainers here can give you some advice :)

Lol! Nap time!
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I was almost 51 the 1st time I ever got on a horse. My friend took a picture and I was leaning sideways on the horse, but I was on the horse.. After that, I was hooked. I spent as much time with this horse as I could, but I only rode him 1 more time before deciding that I needed lessons. I was bouncing all over the place.

My brother told me that he could teach me to ride. Big mistake. His idea of a riding lesson was to put me on a horse, slap it on the butt, then yell out, "Hang on, don't fall off. Now turn him, turn him." He said that's how he was taught.

It took me a few months before I even attempted to call a riding instructor. To be honest, I was afraid to. I had several phone conversations with her before I went for a lessons. We saddled up my lesson horse and I walked it around the arena, then she showed me how to do a couple of ground school exercises to make sure that the horse was paying attention to me. She wanted to make sure I was comfortable with the horse before I got on.

Now, before I got on this horse, I stopped her and said, "You're not going to slap him on the butt are ya." After I explained what happened with my brother, she understood why I was so nervous. She assured me that that wasn't going to happen. I had so much fun in my 1st lesson that I eventually started going twice a week. Unfortunately, she couldn't take me very far in her lessons. Only the basics. Her basics mainly consist of a lot of riding at the walk, and sometimes the trot. She referred me to another instructor.

I'm almost 55 now still very much a beginner and trying to learn all that I can. I do local shows. But it's mostly to meet other horse people. I've met a lot of fun people there and we go on a lot of trail rides together.

"Don't let doubt, fear or the negativity of others stand in the way of your dreams and goals." - Clinton
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I have to say, I was always horse crazy. My very sweet mother purchased a horse for me in my teens (I still have the horse). My mother was actually afraid of horses and not very into them until... A few years after I got my horse, I kind of talked mom into getting one because I thought she would love trail riding. Here we are today, mom is an avid rider with a lovely QH mare named Belle and she is a pro trail rider! She goes for hours... and hours... and hours... whereas I like shorter trail rides about once a week and then working on dressagey stuff in the arena. We really enjoy riding together though, and sharing trail and arena work.

So there is a story of one unhorsey person turned into a horse person!

"You can do something wrong for thirty years and call yourself experienced, you can do something right for a week and experience more than someone who spent thirty years doing the wrong thing." ~WhattaTroublemaker
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