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post #11 of 20 Old 08-03-2015, 09:57 AM
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Well, you could use the word "Travellers."
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I suspected that they were travellers horses.

These people, as I said, are a law unto themselves.
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The land might have some Common Law grazing rights in which case nothing anyone can do to make them move and as long as they aren't starving or sick the RSPCA won't get involved as (much as I have little time for that organization) it's out of there jurisdiction
If you must walk through there then do carry a good stick - but be warned - not all horses will be backed off by one so no guarantee you'll be safe
The Law in the UK has changed now so if they are illegally fly grazing they can be removed - but that means the Council or whoever owns the land has to find someplace to take them or pay the cost of euthanizing them as without passports and micro-chips they can't be sold for meat to cover the costs
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Thanks! I did a bit of googling and understand a bit more about "travellers" (thank you). Oh well... it is hard to sort anything. I shall try not get mauled on my next journey!
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post #15 of 20 Old 08-04-2015, 12:34 AM
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I should sincerely like an opinion from our British contingent on these questions as I don't know:

How do law suits work in Great Britain? What happens if, during a "break out", one of the horses really does seriously injure or kill someone?
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I should sincerely like an opinion from our British contingent on these questions as I don't know:

How do law suits work in Great Britain? What happens if, during a "break out", one of the horses really does seriously injure or kill someone?

Probably not a lot especially with the sort of people these horses belong to. They would each individually deny the horse was theirs and say it belonged to XX and he was in Eire.

There have been cases where people have been seriously hurt and one person was killed, by cattle that were grazing in fields where there are footpaths. The woman was killed by a bull and there was the question as to whether the breed of bull was a dairy breed or a beef breed.
Beef breed Bulls may be turned out where there are foot or bridle paths but not dairy breeds as these bulls can be of a nastier nature.
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I should sincerely like an opinion from our British contingent on these questions as I don't know:

How do law suits work in Great Britain? What happens if, during a "break out", one of the horses really does seriously injure or kill someone?
If the horse was identifiable then the owner would be held liable under law if it escaped and caused an accident or injury but a lot of these horses have no microchips and 'absent owners'. The horse would most likely just get euthanized
There are protections for the public if there is a legal right of way on the land or if its 'Common land' and an animal on it is dangerous but usually someone has to get hurt before the authorities will do anything
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https://www.gov.uk/public-rights-of-...sponsibilities
Bulls of recognised dairy breeds that are over the age of 10 months are banned by law from fields containing a PROW. Bulls over 10 months of any other breed must be accompanied by cows or heifers when in fields with public access.
The recognised banned breeds are: Ayrshire, British Friesian, British Holstein, Dairy Shorthorn, Guernsey, Jersey and Kerry.
Make sure that any warning notices relating to a bull are displayed only when it is actually present in a field.
Horses may be kept loose in fields crossed by PROWs, as long as they are not known to be dangerous. You can be prosecuted if you keep any potentially dangerous animal on land crossed by a PROW.
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Thanks for the info, Fox hunter and others. Yes, certainly different laws than here!
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post #19 of 20 Old 08-09-2015, 08:54 AM
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Fascinating how different laws are across the world!
Here in the US, property rights are strong and a person walking across another's land would be considered a trespasser. In some states it could possibly get you shot!
On the other hand, because we have more lawyers than doctors, we Americans simply cannot allow strangers to casually wander onto our property and suddenly get injured. A good way to get sued and lose everything you own!
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We have trespass laws too.

These rights of way paths are from old days as a method to allow workers to get from one place to another without following a road.

A bridleway is eight feet and a footpath four feet in width. The landowner is responsible for keeping them clear and users should stay on the paths.

When I was staying in VA one of the forst things I saw was a field full of North Devon cattle. I couldn't believe it as they are not the most popular of beef breeds. I had my friend stop the car and I got out to take a picture. I walked up the drive a way to get a bit closer.

The owner happened to come back and was non to pleased at my being there! I gave a big smile and said how I couldn't believe see N Devon cattle in VA amd what beautiful,specimens they were.

Friend was waiting at the end of the drive and in need of a laundry change!

His demeanour changed and we were invited to come up to the house and have a look at his animals.
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