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post #1 of 17 Old 01-19-2016, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
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Bit to use?

I just started leasing my mare tulip
She is currently in the JP korsteel copper link eggbutt snaffle
I heard it is the most soft of all the snaffles, but she has started to get really strong on it and it leaning on it more. she wont stop as easily and is CONSTANTLY throwing her head all over and is almost dragging me off.
I was wondering if there was still a little bit of a harsher snaffle that the pressure is applied to more than just the lips that might work?
SHE IS NOT TO ADVANCED FOR ME
i have been riding her since june and she was doing just fine in that bit
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post #2 of 17 Old 01-19-2016, 11:23 PM
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If it was me, I'd be trying to figure out what changed.

A change in any riders? Have her teeth been checked recently (within the last 6 months)? Are you trying a different discipline or activity. Have you started taking lessons with a new instructor or trainer?
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post #3 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 06:31 AM
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1. Better have the vet look at her teeth.

2. No need to put "she's not too advanced for me" in all caps. That was NOT MY FIRST THOUGHT until you said it in all caps..

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Ditto others. I assume she's been ridden long term in that bit & all has been fine until recently? I wouldn't be assuming then she's being 'willfully disobedient' & so needs a 'firmer hand' necessarily(tho depends how you ride/what's changed there recently). I'd be thinking that it or something else is hurting/bugging her. Along with checking her teeth & other stuff direct to the bit - like your hands/amount of 'contact', etc - horses can get resistant because of other discomfort, such as saddle fit.
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With any physical issues ruled out, if she was doing "just fine in that bit" sounds like user error. Not sure where you're at skill-wise, but have someone video your ride. Pay attention to your seat, balance, and your hands. Are your shoulders and arms locked, are you too busy with the reins? Or are you too passive letting her pull on you? A harsher bit isn't the answer.
Re: physical issues- remember TMJ problems can cause body pains and body pains can cause TMJ problems. You always have to look at the whole horse. Even if the teeth are fine, the lower jaw may be misaligned and painful.
Be sure and discuss all this with the horses' owner as well, leasing is not owning.
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post #6 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 09:01 AM
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You have just started leasing Tulip but have been riding her since June. Does this mean that you are now her only rider? Also are you taking lessons now with her? How often do you ride her?
Perhaps if you are her only rider now she is not getting enough work and she is not listening to you as she should or as she has done in the past.
If you are not taking lessons it might be a good idea to get some and figure out what's going on.
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post #7 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 11:07 AM
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There is a thread here on reasons a horse resists a bit, and I have copied the link for you.
Since the horse rode fine in this bit, the problem will lie in the other three possibilities, and not the bit


https://www.horseforum.com/horse-trai...e-does-652097/
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post #8 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 11:16 AM Thread Starter
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Boots, She use to be full leased by another girl, but she got too tall for her. She got her teeth done i believe in August, We are still doing jumpers, and have the same trainer
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walkinthewalk, her teeth just got done in august though? i will ask my trainer what her normal schedule is though.
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post #10 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
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loosie, i am currently using her in a bates caprili older model saddle, and it doesnt rise off of her back when jumping, and i can also fit 3 stacked fingers in the gullet. She had always been in that bit, so im wondering if it was her just becoming pretty unresponsive to it. I have always ridden her with a lighter hand, because if you ride her constantly on the bit, she will get ****ed and just throw her head around.
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