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post #11 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
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woodhaven, i ride her 4 days a week and she is sometimes used in the lesson program. I lesson 2 times a week though, its a requirement in the lease
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post #12 of 17 Old 01-20-2016, 11:26 AM
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IME many lesson horses end up leaning on the bit and being heavy in the hand because it takes quite a while for students to develop a soft, following hand. It sounds like this horse is especially sensitive to this, and I suspect that is your problem.
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Have you talked to the owner of the horse? Honestly, if a leaser changed any of my horse's bits to something else, I'd be livid.

You/the owner need to figure out what has changed. I'm not at all saying you should never change a horse's bit, but when a horse has been fine in X bit, and now isn't, you really need to get to the root of the issue rather than switching bits - there's obviously a bigger problem going on, if you change bit you are putting a bandaid on the problem. Fix the problem.
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Given the follow up info (thank you for providing it), I probably would try another bit.

I, personally, like French link snaffles or Kimberwick's.

With the additional factor that you are leasing, it will really help, if you can a) trial some different bits, and then b) get the support of someone the owner likes/trusts.
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I bumped "post" too soon.

Wanted to add: What is the chance that you have one particular bit that only you ride the horse in, and the lesson people ride in what she uses now?

We do that all the time with people who we end up having to host on the ranch. And the horses really can tell the difference and know what is expected with each.

I find it similar to using different bits for different disciplines.
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yes, a horse that is ridden by all kinds of people, can become heavy.leaning on a bit, but even if a horse is fresh, ;leaning, it is not the same as tossing head ect
This following sentence shows me a horse that is not just heavy but resistant to a bit
'if you ride her constantly on the bit, she will get ****ed and just throw her head around.

A horse has to accept you holding him, if you chose to do so, staying soft and giving in poll, face, mouth and body, versus resisting contact, throwing head, being '****y'
I don't think changing bits is going to fix head throwing and being ****y with contact.
I would forget about jumping her for now, and get her softer in her body , using legs effectively, along with reins
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post #17 of 17 Old 01-21-2016, 02:58 AM
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loosie, i am currently using her in a bates caprili older model saddle, and it doesnt rise off of her back when jumping, and i can also fit 3 stacked fingers in the gullet.
Yes, none of that tells if the saddle fits & is comfortable for the horse. Clearance at the top/front of the gullet is but one of many considerations of saddle fit.

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She had always been in that bit, so im wondering if it was her just becoming pretty unresponsive to it.
Yes but our point is WHY is she becoming resistant or 'unresponsive'?? There is a reason. You just have to find it. If she's used for jumping - particularly if big jumps &/or as a lesson horse for learner jumpers, she is likely to have some back/hock/hip problems. Particularly if she's also been ridden until recently by someone who was getting too big for her.
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